VillaChris Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Palace will finish above likes of Everton and Southampton this season imo, their side is made for a shed load of away wins, two out of two so far. Not quite sure they'll challenge Spurs over 38 games, Swansea certainly will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Aside from Eriksen they have such a workmen-like side lacking creativity and a cutting edge, I think they'll struggle this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) Somebody at Spurs needs to tell Levy he is not this great negotiator he thinks he is as he has cost Spurs yet again on transfer deadline day. Also Berahino goes on strike and Wanyama refuses to play for Southampton this weekend, think dirty tricks going on Someone - and thinking about it it might have been you - had a good line a while back about how we can't call Levy a great businessman if no-one wants to do business with him, and it's so true. Premier League clubs don't need to sell their best players on deadline day. It's easy to bully European clubs and Championship clubs, but come deadline day the player is more important than the money for West Brom and Southampton. They knew they wanted Berahino months ago, and £22m or thereabouts is a perfectly fair price for him. If they'd put in a sensible bid in July, they'd have got the player and West Brom wouldn't hate them for all eternity. Levy's problem is that his reputation as a hard-ass negotiator has got to the point that people avoid him like the plague even when it might not be in their best interests to. The very best negotiators ensure that while they get the best end of the deal, the other party comes away with enough satisfaction that they'll return to the table next time. Edited September 3, 2015 by HanoiVillan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heid3ster Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 The photo accompanying a Guardian article has chosen the most evil-looking picture possible of Levy: He looks like a Bond villain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 To be fair to Levy, it has worked in the past. He got some amazing deals for Bale, Berba and Keane off the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharperr Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) Depends which way you want to look at it really. The money they have to spend is an insane amount to "maybe" get top 4 and youre very unlikely to stay there for very long. IIRC (i could be wrong), their netspend is close to the lowest in the division in recent years whilst still "challenging" for top 4. Think its difficult to call him anything other than a great businessman. Only have to look at plop to see the money you have to spend and still not get top 4. And united Also everybody is willing to do business with anyone (apart from plop/united), theyre not just going to say "no i dont want your money because your levy". Him playing hardball does nothing damaging for future deals (it possibly could even help given teams wont just automatically inflate prices thinking hes going to spunk money). Should note, i know nothing about business. Edited September 3, 2015 by gharperr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 If one of Eriksen or Kane get injured....They will be lucky to finish in the top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 To be fair to Levy, it has worked in the past. He got some amazing deals for Bale, Berba and Keane off the top of my head.Berbatov deal was a disaster and he got ripped off by Fergie and made take Campbell on loan, dont remember the Keane deal as he sold him 6 months earlier and rarely played when he signed him Levy has now **** up 3 summers in a row at Spurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 (edited) Depends which way you want to look at it really. The money they have to spend is an insane amount to "maybe" get top 4 and youre very unlikely to stay there for very long. IIRC (i could be wrong), their netspend is close to the lowest in the division in recent years whilst still "challenging" for top 4. Think its difficult to call him anything other than a great businessman. Only have to look at plop to see the money you have to spend and still not get top 4. And unitedAlso everybody is willing to do business with anyone (apart from plop/united), theyre not just going to say "no i dont want your money because your levy". Him playing hardball does nothing damaging for future deals (it possibly could even help given teams wont just automatically inflate prices thinking hes going to spunk money). Should note, i know nothing about business. Well, David Hytner in the Guardian has a new column up, making the same point I did:'Pochettino did not want to see Levy waiting until the last moment to get the striker which was so sorely needed or, indeed, the defensive midfielder to give the team increased bite and balance. But that was exactly what he got and not for the first time Levy faces uncomfortable questions over his approach to the market. It is all very well having the consent of the player but that of the selling club can be an entirely different matter and Levy ran into a brick wall as the clock ticked towards 6pm on Tuesday. Axel Witsel, the Zenit St Petersburg midfielder, said that he wanted to move to Tottenham but his club had said no. “They can’t find a player to replace me,” Witsel said. “They told me I couldn’t leave. Even for €70m.” Victor Wanyama, the Southampton midfielder, had told his manager, Ronald Koeman, last week that he wanted to join Tottenham and he was left out of the squad for Sunday’s home win over Norwich City. But it made no difference.Southampton were never going to sell one of their key players so late in the window. When Tottenham offered a package worth £20m, including either Andros Townsend or Erik Lamela on loan, it was dismissed in a heart-beat. The situation with Berahino was not dissimilar. Tottenham had made their opening offer on 18 August but they did not put forward anything close to being acceptable until deadline day and by then the position of Jeremy Peace, the West Brom chairman, had become entrenched. [...] Levy stands accused of misjudging the market while his tried and trusted brinkmanship came to look outdated. Was there ever going to be a financial plus from taking in-coming business down to the wire? West Brom might have sold Berahino for £25m but never for less and it is fair to say that Tottenham were made fully aware of that. Their chances of signing Berahino would have been far greater had they offered £25m a few weeks ago. There is also the issue of Levy’s previous coming back to haunt him. Put simply, you can only put noses out of joint so many times. Southampton felt sore last summer when Levy took Pochettino from them, and followed that up by making unacceptable moves for Morgan Schneiderlin and Jay Rodriguez. They were never going to let Wanyama go this summer and they were absolutely never going to sell him to Tottenham. There are numerous stories within the game of Levy making offers that serve only to infuriate – most recently, one of his bids for Berahino featured payments of £3.5m each year for five years. It might have added up to an OK bid but it did not create the right climate for further negotiations. At West Brom they joked that Tottenham would still be paying their proposed add-ons when Berahino was drawing his pension. Levy is a famously hard negotiator but he can and does make things more difficult for himself.' Edited September 4, 2015 by HanoiVillan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 What a word removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Villain Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 The photo accompanying a Guardian article has chosen the most evil-looking picture possible of Levy: He looks like a Bond villain. Really? I always thought he looked like Gru from 'Despicable Me' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 4, 2015 Moderator Share Posted September 4, 2015 So now Adebaydonkey fails to show up for international duty with Togo. If he doesn't have a valid reason for his no-show then surely FIFA have to suspend his pay. You can't ban him because he's already out of Spurs' 25 man squad. Hitting his pocket is the only thing he understands. Again, this is all if there are no extenuating circumstances but it appears as though now he's happy to literally play zero football and think he can pick up 100 grand a week. That can't be allowed to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Why did anyone want him? It was always pretty clear that he has a dreadful attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heid3ster Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Why did anyone want him? It was always pretty clear that he has a dreadful attitude. I'm with you. I'm not saying there aren't maybe extenuating circumstances with what he's been through over the years, but all through the transfer window I was thinking he was too big a risk and was hoping we wouldn't get him. We dodged a bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 (edited) Spurs' squad list is hilarious. They have Adebayor listed there despite not being named in the 25 man squad to make it seem like they actually have more than one striker. And apparently Son was moved there from the midfield section after they failed to sign a striker on deadline day Edited September 5, 2015 by Keyblade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 So now Adebaydonkey fails to show up for international duty with Togo. If he doesn't have a valid reason for his no-show then surely FIFA have to suspend his pay. You can't ban him because he's already out of Spurs' 25 man squad. Hitting his pocket is the only thing he understands. Again, this is all if there are no extenuating circumstances but it appears as though now he's happy to literally play zero football and think he can pick up 100 grand a week. That can't be allowed to happen. well I think he would be happy to play but the club have told him he has no future, They were stupid enough to give him a 100k a week and I hope he stays until the end of the season to **** LEvy over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 5, 2015 Moderator Share Posted September 5, 2015 A team who are light up front and don't choose one of their highest paid players tells me he did plenty to suggest he would not be happy to do his best. I don't mind Levy getting **** over but let's not paint donkey out to be the good guy here. He's a parasite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Harry hypejob Kane is the new Andros Townsend.For someone so average, the hype is insane. Average is probably being kind to him, too. Righto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Harry hypejob Kane is the new Andros Townsend.For someone so average, the hype is insane. Average is probably being kind to him, too. Righto.Happy to admit I'm wrong on Kane and long may it continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharperr Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 (edited) So...surely this pochettino fella has started to become serious name thrown in the hat for united/city/chelsea job? Cant be much longer surely? He'll never get given the funds to win the prem with spurs and noway will they be offering him the amount of money other big teams can offer. It will probably go a bit AVB if terry insists on playing if he ever did go to chelsea. But swap terry for stones and it should help a ton Also easily best cb pairing in the prem atm right? Pretty mad to think Ali just signed a new contract worth 25kp/w i think it was. (obviously he will get a new one at end of year if he keeps producing, but still weird to think about)*showing i dont only talk about one london club.... Edited January 24, 2016 by gharperr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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