villa4europe Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 how far away from returning is barnes? their bigger problem will be depth, almiron has started 18 of their 21 PL games and came off the bench in their other 3 as i look at their team right now it says to me that if they sell him and don't buy a direct replacement they'll be playing Matt Ritchie, even if they do buy a direct replacement they still have other needs in other positions like CM, they're going to end up needing more players than they can afford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 On 16/01/2024 at 12:56, Villa_Vids said: Newcastle the political time bomb? Would be very funny if the whole thing imploded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 45 minutes ago, villa4europe said: how far away from returning is barnes? As long as he doesn't play against us as that would be a 1-0 head start for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Joelinton saying no ta to a new contract apparantly, Trippier and Almiron being linked to possibly depart. Either they're playing by the FFP rules (fair dos) or perhaps they're clearing the decks for a new manager in the summer - all quite unsettled really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jareth said: Joelinton saying no ta to a new contract apparantly, Trippier and Almiron being linked to possibly depart. Either they're playing by the FFP rules (fair dos) or perhaps they're clearing the decks for a new manager in the summer - all quite unsettled really. If they get fees for the players (assumed), then it may well be both. Almiron and Joelinton joined Newcastle a fair time ago for £21m and £40m respectively. If we assume 5 year contract for both of them and this summer is 4 years after they joined, then the books have already taken the majority hit of their fees. Let's say they have a further £4.2m and £8m to account for, but sell the players for £20m and £30m each; that's a booked £37.8m profit for FFP. Given the 5-year limit etc, those two players alone (at these very hypothetical values) would enable a new manager - or, indeed, Howe - to spend a further £189m in the summer. Edit: Obviously very basic and assumes everything else checks out at £0 impact on P&L. Edited January 22 by bobzy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 22 minutes ago, bobzy said: If they get fees for the players (assumed), then it may well be both. Almiron and Joelinton joined Newcastle a fair time ago for £21m and £40m respectively. If we assume 5 year contract for both of them and this summer is 4 years after they joined, then the books have already taken the majority hit of their fees. Let's say they have a further £4.2m and £8m to account for, but sell the players for £20m and £30m each; that's a booked £37.8m profit for FFP. Given the 5-year limit etc, those two players alone (at these very hypothetical values) would enable a new manager - or, indeed, Howe - to spend a further £189m in the summer. Edit: Obviously very basic and assumes everything else checks out at £0 impact on P&L. Seems pretty sensible to get these players off the books this year, even if it means they have a rubbish second half of the season really. They aren't qualifying for CL this season anyway, might as well splurge in the summer and have a proper run at it again next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oishiiniku_uk Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 4 hours ago, villan-scott said: Convenient. Although he’s one of their better players. Be interesting to see the amount he goes for. Just the other week Nice Guy Eddie said they had no friends in the market to help them out. He must have simply forgotten that their owners also ran the Saudi Pro League and could do them a favour to get Newcastle out of a tight spot... A cynic might suggest that the PR campaign of 'these pesky financial rules are stopping us spending money' coming out of Newcastle the last few weeks was laying the groundwork to make this kind of move appear to be their only viable option... Also, I'm sure Almiron is really keen to go to the SPL when a lot of players who signed in the summer are already trying to get the hell out of there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 4 hours ago, villan-scott said: Convenient. Although he’s one of their better players. Be interesting to see the amount he goes for. This stinks to high heaven 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Shabab’s biggest spend was £15m on Diallo. There’s no public record of their chairman beyond Wikipedia. That’s incredibly sus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 It's simply a great time in the season to play them. Will probably have to sell 2-3 linked over the weekend and replacements probably won't be signed until deadline day night so we'll be facing a very weak first 11 and bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Almiron's actually been there six years, Benitez signed him in late 2018. He's like Joelinthon in that he really struggled at first and then had that purple patch of form when Howe came in. He's also 30 in two weeks so really fits the profile of the Newcastle CEO saying players who can do a job for a year or two and then you have to move them on and reinvest in youth. To me the players they can't afford to lose are guys like Botman and Isak. If they want to be challenging for 4th/5th next season they are simply must keeps. Pope will be back aswell next season. It's interesting to see if they'll be back up challenging again in 12 months. I suspect not and that's when they'll change the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Something’s up with Trippier I think, no idea what it is but a while back I think Southgate alluded to him not being in the best place mentally and then Howe said something similar and about how he’s ‘pushing through’ (paraphrased) some off-field stuff, this has all coincided with his form nose-diving and now him potentially leaving the country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, bannedfromHandV said: Something’s up with Trippier I think, no idea what it is but a while back I think Southgate alluded to him not being in the best place mentally and then Howe said something similar and about how he’s ‘pushing through’ (paraphrased) some off-field stuff, this has all coincided with his form nose-diving and now him potentially leaving the country Rumour was an affair, wasn’t it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Given manquillo away for free to celta vigo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie09 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 hours ago, bannedfromHandV said: Something’s up with Trippier I think, no idea what it is but a while back I think Southgate alluded to him not being in the best place mentally and then Howe said something similar and about how he’s ‘pushing through’ (paraphrased) some off-field stuff, this has all coincided with his form nose-diving and now him potentially leaving the country He was caught playing away 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Be interesting to see how much they pay for Almiron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 10 minutes ago, Robbie09 said: He was caught playing away Interesting. His OH is still playing happy families on Insta although of course what you see on there can be a long way from reality. Thought Trippier might've had a betting relapse or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 51 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Given manquillo away for free to celta vigo Incredible he stayed that long, played about 5 games since 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 36 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Interesting. His OH is still playing happy families on Insta although of course what you see on there can be a long way from reality. Thought Trippier might've had a betting relapse or something. pretty sure he didnt have a betting problem, he just told mates he was moving Edited January 22 by Zatman 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 8 hours ago, Zatman said: Incredible he stayed that long, played about 5 games since 2022 Yeah I don't think people fully grasp just what their squad is, there's a few of Bruce's relegation candidates kicking around still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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