Ikantcpell Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Defoe + £7M for Benteke ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted June 5, 2013 Moderator Share Posted June 5, 2013 Have i missed something here ? Has Benteke said he wants to leave this summer ??No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted June 5, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) I seriously doubt we are interested in Benteke and also doubt Defoe is for sale. This story is complete rubbish in my opinion. Benteke will stay at Villa unless Liverpool are interested. All the other links seem hugely speculative to me. Why do you doubt you'd be in for Benteke joey? I think he'd be a great buy for you. From what I've seen of Spurs this season you're desperate for a decent striker. Adebayor and Defoe are just too inconsistent. I very much doubt he will be going to Liverpool. he's much better than that and I think Lambert will be telling him that. Edited June 5, 2013 by PieFacE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Have i missed something here ? Has Benteke said he wants to leave this summer ?? Some assume that because he hasn't stated otherwise, he must be off. Waiting for all his options to be clear before making a decision to stay or go doesn't seem a possibility to some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandaq Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 ahh spurs, nice try though hahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 My view is the club should just come out and say he's not for sale. We can't have 3 months of this shit every day . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 My view is the club should just come out and say he's not for sale. We can't have 3 months of this shit every day . But if the right offer for the club and player came in, he would be for sale. I doubt the player or anyone at the club is a fretful as some on VT so I expect it will take as long as it takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Yeah, at the end of the day, newspaper links don't mean a thing. Lambert will sit down with him when he is back from international duty and discuss the options. I think we will get another year from him unless an offer for silly money comes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villan_007 Posted June 5, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2013 My view is the club should just come out and say he's not for sale. We can't have 3 months of this shit every day . Maybe you should have mentioned this before......o wait! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) I think this Benteke saga could be ended fairly simply. We go to the player and tell him he is not moving this summer, but we would consider offers after the World Cup if he still in interested in leaving. He then has two options. Sign a bigger deal to play one more season with Villa, or throw a hissy fit, train with the reserves, miss out on the World Cup, and create a reputation as a bad egg. I really feel we hold the cards here.Wouldn't actually be allowed by the FA. As sad as that is. The player's rights are protected to an extent. You can't sign a player and at some point do your utmost to make him rot against his will. It has been tried by others. You just engineer a cheaper move. That's why unhappy players tend to get their way. Your first mistake was "tell him he's not moving". Your ultimatum immediately makes him want out and you've already lost. You should let Alan Hutton and Stephen Warnock know of these "rules." Edited June 5, 2013 by Raymond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post joey55 Posted June 5, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) I seriously doubt we are interested in Benteke and also doubt Defoe is for sale. This story is complete rubbish in my opinion. Benteke will stay at Villa unless Liverpool are interested. All the other links seem hugely speculative to me. Why do you doubt you'd be in for Benteke joey? I think he'd be a great buy for you. From what I've seen of Spurs this season you're desperate for a decent striker. Adebayor and Defoe are just too inconsistent. I very much doubt he will be going to Liverpool. he's much better than that and I think Lambert will be telling him that. Because we've been following Leandro for 2 years, so it would be very odd to suddenly to change at look at Benteke. Personally I don't see what the fuss is with Leandro but our board seem determined to land him. Also there is much better value available elsewhere. Buying from the Premier league is expensive. You'd want over £20 million for a player who has scored 16 goals from open play. He's had a very good season, but outside of the Prem, that would be seen as crazy money for a guy who has had 1 year in a league. I think the Andy Carroll has scuppered that chances of you being able to get a huge fee for him until he's shown he can do it for more than 1 season. The Carroll deal is often touted as a reason why you'd value CB so highly, but in reality, to potential buyers, it's a stark reminder of why not to pay so much based on a relatively short period. Levy tends to learn from past lessons. After spending £16 million on Darren Bent, I can't see us spending big on an inexperienced Prem striker unless he's obviously exceptional. I know many will argue CB is exceptional, but it would contradict the match reports threads here at VT. Our scouts will see the same games you guys do and though CB has scored goals and had some great games, many times he hasn't been that great, as has been the consensus among your fans who post here. I'm not saying he isn't quality and it isn't my opinion of CB I'm talking about. I'm pointing out that the general opinion of him over the last month or so far exceeds what has been said in match day threads by members of this forum. I stress there has been no suggestion that he isn't good, but that opinions expressed based on his performances in post match threads don't really match the hype he's now receiving. Generally speaking I think his value to Villa is simply higher than it is to most clubs touted as being interested in him. For example, he can be linked to Athletico Madrid all summer, but are they going to be more interested in him or Negredo/Salgado? Which club need to sell more, Valencia, Athletico or Villa? I just don't see serious offers coming in for him based on the price you'd want, the history of players who have had good 1st seasons and the players going to be available this summer. I hate Liverpool as mush as ever other football fan does since RAWK came into existence. But I think some of you are under estimating how enticing they will be for many players. We've finished above them 4 years in a row and I still think they are seen as a step up from us simply because of the scale of the club offers such great potential. Edited June 5, 2013 by joey55 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 I think the Andy Carroll has scuppered that chances of you being able to get a huge fee for him until he's shown he can do it for more than 1 season. The Carroll deal is often touted as a reason why you'd value CB so highly, but in reality, to potential buyers, it's a stark reminder of why not to pay so much based on a relatively short period. Levy tends to learn from past lessons. After spending £16 million on Darren Bent, I can't see us spending big on an inexperienced Prem striker unless he's obviously exceptional. I think that is reason we will keep him for another season. None of the teams will pay big cash for a guy with 1 year PL experience. As great as he has been Michael Ricketts and Marcus Stewart have had brilliant 1st seasons as well and failed to deliver after that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandaq Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Yeah that is also the main reason why we value him so highly. Imagine one of those clubs swooping him up now, he has an excellent season + a very good world cup run, imagine how much he is worth then suddenly. That is why anything under 30 is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevangrealish Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) Joey ^^^ Good point about the player outside the premier league, but remember that the premier league is (Known by many,not just englishmen being biused ) as the best league in the world. You're right the price would not even be half of what we want if it had been in an average european league but remember the fact of what Benteke has been playing with this season and also the opposition he has been playing against. Theres no debating that if a club want to take a risk after one good season on a player then they should be prepared to pay the money. If not i suppose that isn't our problem but theirs ? Its not what just us fans would think but every club including the likes of Newcastle (For Andy Carroll) and i reckon newcastle would have tried to do the same for demba ba if it wasn't for his release clause. The moral of the story to every club interested... Cough up or swivel off. Edited June 5, 2013 by kevangrealish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted June 5, 2013 Moderator Share Posted June 5, 2013 You should let Alan Hutton and Stephen Warnock know of these "rules."It's OK, Warnock already knew about the "rules" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 This is a little bit encouraging, if a little double entendre-ish: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Excellent post, joey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted June 5, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted June 5, 2013 Joey talks too much sense. Bring back Glaston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted June 5, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted June 5, 2013 Burn him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 I think this Benteke saga could be ended fairly simply. We go to the player and tell him he is not moving this summer, but we would consider offers after the World Cup if he still in interested in leaving. He then has two options. Sign a bigger deal to play one more season with Villa, or throw a hissy fit, train with the reserves, miss out on the World Cup, and create a reputation as a bad egg. I really feel we hold the cards here.Wouldn't actually be allowed by the FA. As sad as that is. The player's rights are protected to an extent. You can't sign a player and at some point do your utmost to make him rot against his will. It has been tried by others. You just engineer a cheaper move. That's why unhappy players tend to get their way. Your first mistake was "tell him he's not moving". Your ultimatum immediately makes him want out and you've already lost. Think Malouda would say different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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