HanoiVillan Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 On decision arrival times: Looks like loads of room for ambiguity and legal action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted October 28, 2020 Moderator Share Posted October 28, 2020 16 hours ago, villakram said: Joe Biden solves nothing. The emperor will once again have wonderful new clothes, no more. You're being held hostage by a man with a gun. Would you prefer that man to be: a.) on meth? or b.) not on meth? I realise that ideally you'd rather not have someone holding a gun to you - but given that isn't an option, Biden is the no meth solution. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted October 28, 2020 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) 22 hours ago, villakram said: It's not fake. Well it was, wasn't it? It wasn't fake that he stumbled over his words and used the wrong name. But it's certainly fake that he mistook Trump for George Bush which is what the video you posted was stating. That makes him sound like a senile old man who can't tell one president from another. When in reality it was a quickly corrected use of the wrong name "George", probably because he was talking to someone called George. Something that most of us do every day. It was a deliberately misleading headline to sensationalise an incredibly minor incident into appearing to be something it isn't. The kind of thing if someone had posted about Trump you'd be crying about whilst reassuring us that you're not a Trump supporter. Edited October 28, 2020 by Stevo985 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 I’m on any side that opposes trump, just to be clear. But Biden is a senile old man, that’s just a fact and is the only reason Trump might still be in power after the election. Its been done to death already here but how can a nation of such vastness come up with Joe Biden as the only viable alternative. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 28, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 minute ago, bannedfromHandV said: I’m on any side that opposes trump, just to be clear. But Biden is a senile old man, that’s just a fact and is the only reason Trump might still be in power after the election. Its been done to death already here but how can a nation of such vastness come up with Joe Biden as the only viable alternative. I agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 23 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Well it was, wasn't it? It wasn't fake that he stumbled over his words and used the wrong name. But it's certainly fake that he mistook Trump for George Bush which is what the video you posted was stating. That makes him sound like a senile old man who can't tell one president from another. When in reality it was a quickly corrected use of the wrong name "George", probably because he was talking to someone called George. Something that most of us do every day. It was a deliberately misleading headline to sensationalise an incredibly minor incident into appearing to be something it isn't. The kind of thing if someone had posted about Trump you'd be crying about whilst reassuring us that you're not a Trump supporter. It's not fake, it was taken out of context, yes deliberately. Politics 101. Why are you using Trump's language? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 39 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: You're being held hostage by a man with a gun. Would you prefer that man to be: a.) on meth? or b.) not on meth? I realise that ideally you'd rather not have someone holding a gun to you - but given that isn't an option, Biden is the no meth solution. It is not binary. There are 2 other individuals, a spoilt vote, a write in and refusing to vote as options. Healthcare/education/taxation will all remain essentially unchanged. Lot's of branding and re-branding will occur however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 19 minutes ago, villakram said: It's not fake, It's fake that he mistook Trump for George Bush. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: It's fake that he mistook Trump for George Bush. Well it’s either Bush or Washington and if it’s the latter then he’s in real trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 52 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: I’m on any side that opposes trump, just to be clear. But Biden is a senile old man, that’s just a fact and is the only reason Trump might still be in power after the election. Its been done to death already here but how can a nation of such vastness come up with Joe Biden as the only viable alternative. I'm not sure it's a fact that he is actually senile. I agree that it doesn't say a lot for the country that they couldn't get a younger candidate but I'm sure that there are a lot of younger people that wouldn't be as likely to win on Tuesday. Biden getting over the line is what matters right now and they will probably end up with a younger, more progressive leader in 4 years time as a result. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 hour ago, OutByEaster? said: You're being held hostage by a man with a gun. Would you prefer that man to be: a.) on meth? or b.) not on meth? I realise that ideally you'd rather not have someone holding a gun to you - but given that isn't an option, Biden is the no meth solution. You do realise that if one were to find themselves in this predicament the only preference should be that the assailant isn't willing and able to do harm. The rest is neither here nor there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 28, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) 44 minutes ago, villakram said: It's not fake, it was taken out of context, yes deliberately. Politics 101. Why are you using Trump's language? Trump didn't invent the term "fake news" as much as he'd like you to believe he did. "Joe Biden confuses President Trump with George Bush" is fake news. Or if you don't want to use "Trump's language", it is a deliberate lie. It's not taken out of context, it is deliberately put into a false context. It didn't happen. Edited October 28, 2020 by Stevo985 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Stevo985 said: Trump didn't invent the term "fake news" as much as he'd like you to believe he did. "Joe Biden confuses President Trump with George Bush" is fake news. it's not taken out of context, it is deliberately put into a false context. It didn't happen. If I'm honest that's the way I interpreted the snippet of video I saw from Biden speaking. Have we established which George he was referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 hour ago, bannedfromHandV said: I’m on any side that opposes trump, just to be clear. But Biden is a senile old man, that’s just a fact and is the only reason Trump might still be in power after the election. Its been done to death already here but how can a nation of such vastness come up with Joe Biden as the only viable alternative. Only one candidate has taken a test to measure dementia, and it wasn’t Biden. I’ve seen nothing, except the normal slanted right wing propoganda from the likes of Fox News, to indicate any cognisance issues with Biden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 28, 2020 Moderator Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 minute ago, A'Villan said: Have we established which George he was referring to? Why would it matter? he corrected himself inside a second. It's not a sign of senility or Altzhiemers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Seat68 Posted October 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2020 I hope I am not considered unfit for a job because I get a name wrong. Jesus I have called my own wife by the wrong name, yes it happened when you should not be calling your wife the wrong name. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Quote The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration fired its top scientist by email after he asked political appointees at the agency to commit to its scientific ethics policy, The New York Times reported. Craig McLean, the acting chief scientist, sent an email to several political appointees to the agency, requesting that they acknowledge NOAA's policy of respecting the integrity of scientific data, The Times said. Among the recipients of the email was Dr. Erik Noble, the newly appointed NOAA chief of staff who was previously a White House policy advisor. "Respectfully, by what authority are you sending this to me?" Noble replied to the email, per The Times. McLean answered that it was part of his job to ensure that the agency's ethics policies were observed, the outlet said. The following day, The Times said, Noble emailed him to say: "You no longer serve as the acting chief scientist for NOAA. Thank you for your service." McLean was replaced by Ryan Maue, a former employee at a libertarian think tank who has questioned projections about humans' impact on climate change. Business Insider 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 28, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted October 28, 2020 15 minutes ago, A'Villan said: If I'm honest that's the way I interpreted the snippet of video I saw from Biden speaking. Have we established which George he was referring to? He was being interviewed by a man called George, so it was probably him getting the names mixed up. Even if it wasn't, what evidence is there that he said George because he got Trump confused with George Bush? That's an absolutely massive leap to make. Basically it's a zebra 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 29 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: He was being interviewed by a man called George, so it was probably him getting the names mixed up. Even if it wasn't, what evidence is there that he said George because he got Trump confused with George Bush? That's an absolutely massive leap to make. Basically it's a zebra Yeah, I agree entirely, in saying I interpreted it a certain way I wasn't suggesting that it should be taken as his meaning. Hell, it might've been the angle the news I was watching was spinning for all I know, I really don't remember. Cheers for the clarification. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 47 minutes ago, bickster said: Why would it matter? he corrected himself inside a second. It's not a sign of senility or Altzhiemers Don't mind me. I barely saw the interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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