Straggler Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Jareth said: Looking forward to July 13th. What Trump does not understand is the British tradition of gathering in crowds and shouting rude things, we do it all the time let alone when given a very good reason that unites literally everybody who revels in this sort of thing. Gonna be amazing. I'm getting my protest sign prepared nice and early. I'm thinking something alone the lines of "England has the best hookers" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 27, 2018 Moderator Share Posted April 27, 2018 On Korea, the two leaders have said that they're looking to de-nuclearise the peninsula. If that's the case then are they talking about removing US Nuclear weapons from South Korea, are there any still there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Awol Posted April 27, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 27, 2018 16 minutes ago, sne said: So with the Korea war finally over after 68 years you have to wonder how long before Trump takes credit for it. Imagine Trump and Kim Jong-Un getting the Nobel Peace Prize... He may be nuttier than bucket of squirrel s**t but fact is this has only happened due to the pressure Trump has brought to bear on N Korea with bellicose rhetoric & direct threats. Before he came in there was no process, other than what looked like a steady drift to war. He can go to jail tomorrow & would still deserve every bit of kudos coming his way IF this leads to denuclearization, but ending the war is itself a remarkable achievement. @OutByEaster The US has no nuclear weapons in S Korea, & Trump wants the 30K troops out, too. If the N Koreans follow through with their part (& who knows with Kim) I’d imagine that will be the quid-pro-quo following verification. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Awol said: He may be nuttier than bucket of squirrel s**t but fact is this has only happened due to the pressure Trump has brought to bear on N Korea with bellicose rhetoric & direct threats. Before he came in there was no process, other than what looked like a steady drift to war. He can go to jail tomorrow & would still deserve every bit of kudos coming his way IF this leads to denuclearization, but ending the war is itself a remarkable achievement. @OutByEaster The US has no nuclear weapons in S Korea, & Trump wants the 30K troops out, too. If the N Koreans follow through with their part (& who knows with Kim) I’d imagine that will be the quid-pro-quo following verification. This might or might not be true. We really have no idea of what has been going on behind closed doors before Trump took office because back then these things were kept between the people handling them. Unlike now when Trump is pretty much Tweeting live from closed door meetings and revealing everything that shines a favorable light on him, while at the same time letting his lawyers handle anything that doesn't. But I agree kudos to everyone involved in potentially disarming this situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LxYoungAVFC Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 THE KING IN THE NORFFFFF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Jareth said: Looking forward to July 13th. What Trump does not understand is the British tradition of gathering in crowds and shouting rude things, we do it all the time let alone when given a very good reason that unites literally everybody who revels in this sort of thing. Gonna be amazing. The Great British Moon At Trump group on Facebook has been erased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 27, 2018 Moderator Share Posted April 27, 2018 Latest Rumour is that Elliott Broidy wasn't actually the father in the $1.6 million abortion payout. He was just the fall guy for someone else. Avenatti hinted at this in one of his interviews around the time Cohen was forced to reveal his clients, Avenatti said the three clients were Trump, The Trump Campaign and Hannity, he didn't make any reference to Broidy being a client. Might just have been a slip, probably just a conspiracy theory but just imagine its true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Xann said: The Great British Moon At Trump group on Facebook has been erased. #DeepState Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted April 27, 2018 Moderator Share Posted April 27, 2018 57 minutes ago, Straggler said: I'm getting my protest sign prepared nice and early. I'm thinking something alone the lines of "England has the best hookers" "A Trump Is A Fart". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Xann said: The Great British Moon At Trump group on Facebook has been erased. Disappointed, I was looking forward to that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 8 hours ago, Awol said: He may be nuttier than bucket of squirrel s**t but fact is this has only happened due to the pressure Trump has brought to bear on N Korea with bellicose rhetoric & direct threats. Before he came in there was no process, other than what looked like a steady drift to war. He can go to jail tomorrow & would still deserve every bit of kudos coming his way IF this leads to denuclearization, but ending the war is itself a remarkable achievement. @OutByEaster The US has no nuclear weapons in S Korea, & Trump wants the 30K troops out, too. If the N Koreans follow through with their part (& who knows with Kim) I’d imagine that will be the quid-pro-quo following verification. and inspection have taken place to verify this or are we supposed to trust the US military now? From a strategic perspective, I'd be amazed if there are no nukes present... flying in from Diego Garcia or Japan wouldn't be worth shit if the NK started shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 8 hours ago, Awol said: fact is this has only happened due to the pressure Trump has brought to bear on N Korea with bellicose rhetoric & direct threats. Before he came in there was no process, other than what looked like a steady drift to war. That’s hardly a fact. There are other variables in play here. Unless you’re privy to information I haven’t seen, other than Trump trying to claim as much credit as possible, as he’ll do with pretty much anything, he may have had nothing to do with it at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 44 minutes ago, Michelsen said: That’s hardly a fact. There are other variables in play here. Unless you’re privy to information I haven’t seen, other than Trump trying to claim as much credit as possible, as he’ll do with pretty much anything, he may have had nothing to do with it at all. No peace is possible w/o the explicit involvement of the US as they are a direct party to the war. Hence, peace talks implicitly require at a minimum the acquiescence of the US. Much more than that has occurred here as evidenced by the secret Pompeo trip to NK. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 4 hours ago, villakram said: and inspection have taken place to verify this or are we supposed to trust the US military now? From a strategic perspective, I'd be amazed if there are no nukes present... flying in from Diego Garcia or Japan wouldn't be worth shit if the NK started shooting. Hypothetically speaking, if the US was going to nuke somewhere as a first strike it would almost certainly use a sub-based ballistic missile, far less chance of something going wrong with the process of delivering instant sunshine rapidly on target. Air or sub launched cruise missiles are vulnerable to integrated air defence systems, & if a situation is serious enough to use a nuke....you’d want to be very sure it got there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Awol said: Hypothetically speaking, if the US was going to nuke somewhere as a first strike it would almost certainly use a sub-based ballistic missile, far less chance of something going wrong with the process of delivering instant sunshine rapidly on target. Air or sub launched cruise missiles are vulnerable to integrated air defence systems, & if a situation is serious enough to use a nuke....you’d want to be very sure it got there. Agreed. I see having nukes on the mainland as a defensive move, i.e., nuke the DMZ and turn it into a true no-go zone etc. etc., preventing ground force movements and negating the NK massive manpower advantage. This may sound extreme, but US military men have a track record in thinking this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LxYoungAVFC Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 21 hours ago, sne said: So with the Korea war finally over after 68 years you have to wonder how long before Trump takes credit for it. Imagine Trump and Kim Jong-Un getting the Nobel Peace Prize... If Dennis Rodman gets the Nobel Peace Prize my life is complete and I can die in peace. Seriously, that would be hilarious! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) 21 hours ago, Awol said: He may be nuttier than bucket of squirrel s**t but fact is this has only happened due to the pressure Trump has brought to bear on N Korea with bellicose rhetoric & direct threats. Before he came in there was no process, other than what looked like a steady drift to war. He can go to jail tomorrow & would still deserve every bit of kudos coming his way IF this leads to denuclearization, but ending the war is itself a remarkable achievement. @OutByEaster The US has no nuclear weapons in S Korea, & Trump wants the 30K troops out, too. If the N Koreans follow through with their part (& who knows with Kim) I’d imagine that will be the quid-pro-quo following verification. I think this places too much credit on Trump, to be honest. Kim appears to have decided some time ago that his best hope for the continuation of dynastic political control is economic opening. China and Vietnam - and in a different way, Singapore - have demonstrated that economic opening doesn't have to entail political opening. But to start gradually attracting foreign investment, first the country needs to stop being on a permanent war footing. Kim is not going to be 'denuclearising' in the sense that people seem to think (ie decommissioning all warheads and ending any enrichment programs) any time soon, because the economic imperative for the North to reduce the 23% of GDP it spends on defence is more pressing than ever, and the nuclear program is a way to do that. I just don't agree that 'before he [Trump] came in there was . . . what looked like a steady drift to war', I don't think that reflects reality at all. Edited April 28, 2018 by HanoiVillan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 6 hours ago, villakram said: Agreed. I see having nukes on the mainland as a defensive move, i.e., nuke the DMZ and turn it into a true no-go zone etc. etc., preventing ground force movements and negating the NK massive manpower advantage. This may sound extreme, but US military men have a track record in thinking this way. Not only US military men, Pakistan’s nuclear doctrine is amazing. In the case of an imminent Indian invasion Pakistan intends to nuke itself, thus demonstrating they are not to be messed with. That really is true, btw. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 13 minutes ago, Awol said: Not only US military men, Pakistan’s nuclear doctrine is amazing. In the case of an imminent Indian invasion Pakistan intends to nuke itself, thus demonstrating they are not to be messed with. That really is true, btw. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) LOL at the oh-so sincere Republicans who have spent years mocking 'safe spaces' and 'the importance of hearing opposing viewpoints' who have collectively lost their mud over a comedian telling jokes at a dinner. EDIT: I mean, get a load of this: Edited April 29, 2018 by HanoiVillan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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