Wainy316 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 29 shots to 2! Genuinely a once in a lifetime result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 41 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: 29 shots to 2! Genuinely a once in a lifetime result. Football Manager game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Bielsa’s done well with Leeds. He’s turned them around, got them promoted and now on track to finish comfortably mid table. He’s got to be in the mix for manager of the season? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 1 minute ago, LondonLax said: Bielsa’s done well with Leeds. He’s turned them around, got them promoted and now on track to finish comfortably mid table. He’s got to be in the mix for manager of the season? I think Moyes should get it but definitely in contention same as Smith as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Yes, probably Moyes for me as well. It would be a special season for them if West Ham can hang on to 4th. Brendan Rogers is another one who is doing very well but seems to be going under the radar a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 I like him, but Smith isn't even in the conversation when Moyes had done such a brilliant job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 22 minutes ago, Davkaus said: I like him, but Smith isn't even in the conversation when Moyes had done such a brilliant job. Stayed up last minute of last season to get to upper midtable before Grealish injury Its for some reason not impressing villa fans but its not gone unnoticed by people outside villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 I think what goes against DS a bit is rightly or wrongly people from outside in media and general perception is the money he's spent. 100m the summer we went up and then another 80m on top last summer. And Grealish. Of course we all know we simply had to do it given we had about 5 serious prem players in our whole squad when we went up but people will probably compare to other managers who've come up in recent times and not spent that much. It's ironic with Leeds as they've largely established themslves without any of their big money signings playing that much, Llorente hardly played until start of Feb, Robin Koch been injured for months and Rodrigo seems largely out of favour now, those three were 70m I think. Just Raphinnia been the unqualified success so far 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 6 hours ago, villalad21 said: Looking at both clubs fixture list coupled with the fact that we have Jack out i do think they will finish above us. I should think it's a racing certainty. In fact I think they'll finish 6+ points ahead of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 18 hours ago, Wainy316 said: 29 shots to 2! Genuinely a once in a lifetime result. Yes if you look at stats alone but I don't think the result was any fluke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_avfc Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 18 hours ago, PaulC said: Yes if you look at stats alone but I don't think the result was any fluke. Its not a fluke but they were very lucky. Its a fairly standard way to play against teams like this Manchester City. We did it for a long time and were eventually undone by a goal that should have been offside. 9 times out of 10 City stick the ball in the back of the net a few times and win that game comfortably. On this occasion they didn't and then were too open for the counter attack at the end of the game. Its a good win for Leeds but any suggestion that its some sort of Bielsa masterclass is pretty laughable. Pretty much every team in the division will go to the Etihad and play in that same way. Even this season West Brom have taken a point from the Etihad with largely the same game plan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 48 minutes ago, tom_avfc said: Its not a fluke but they were very lucky. Its a fairly standard way to play against teams like this Manchester City. We did it for a long time and were eventually undone by a goal that should have been offside. 9 times out of 10 City stick the ball in the back of the net a few times and win that game comfortably. On this occasion they didn't and then were too open for the counter attack at the end of the game. Its a good win for Leeds but any suggestion that its some sort of Bielsa masterclass is pretty laughable. Pretty much every team in the division will go to the Etihad and play in that same way. Even this season West Brom have taken a point from the Etihad with largely the same game plan. United did it a few weeks ago and Mourinho at the start of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted April 12, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 12, 2021 On 10/04/2021 at 23:38, HanoiVillan said: I should think it's a racing certainty. In fact I think they'll finish 6+ points ahead of us. they should be winning at least 3 of their last 7 we'll do well to win more than one or 2 of ours. i think wolves will finish above us too...they have a number of winnable games left, including 4 of the current bottom 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 26 minutes ago, tomav84 said: they should be winning at least 3 of their last 7 we'll do well to win more than one or 2 of ours. i think wolves will finish above us too...they have a number of winnable games left, including 4 of the current bottom 6 Yeah, I think you're right. I expect us to finish 12th, I don't think Palace have enough to catch us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRed Posted April 12, 2021 Visiting Supporter Share Posted April 12, 2021 2 hours ago, tom_avfc said: Its not a fluke but they were very lucky. Its a fairly standard way to play against teams like this Manchester City. We did it for a long time and were eventually undone by a goal that should have been offside. 9 times out of 10 City stick the ball in the back of the net a few times and win that game comfortably. On this occasion they didn't and then were too open for the counter attack at the end of the game. Its a good win for Leeds but any suggestion that its some sort of Bielsa masterclass is pretty laughable. Pretty much every team in the division will go to the Etihad and play in that same way. Even this season West Brom have taken a point from the Etihad with largely the same game plan. You do realise that we were playing the same way we’d played all season and were winning until we went down 10 and were forced to play more conservative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRed Posted April 12, 2021 Visiting Supporter Share Posted April 12, 2021 On 10/04/2021 at 22:33, VillaChris said: I think what goes against DS a bit is rightly or wrongly people from outside in media and general perception is the money he's spent. 100m the summer we went up and then another 80m on top last summer. And Grealish. Of course we all know we simply had to do it given we had about 5 serious prem players in our whole squad when we went up but people will probably compare to other managers who've come up in recent times and not spent that much. It's ironic with Leeds as they've largely established themslves without any of their big money signings playing that much, Llorente hardly played until start of Feb, Robin Koch been injured for months and Rodrigo seems largely out of favour now, those three were 70m I think. Just Raphinnia been the unqualified success so far But isn’t this the argument. Bielsa got the best out of a “championship” squad and has currently 10th where as yourselves felt it necessary to spend big on the squad and smith barely kept you up. What would smith have done with your championship team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, BigRed said: What would smith have done with your championship team? He'd have won promotion before Bielsa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, BigRed said: But isn’t this the argument. Bielsa got the best out of a “championship” squad and has currently 10th where as yourselves felt it necessary to spend big on the squad and smith barely kept you up. What would smith have done with your championship team? Yes some like Dallas and Cooper have stayed and done much better than expected. However you've moved others on like Barry Douglas who was regular in first 18 months of Bielsa and Foreshaw's another who's hardly featured, guessing injured as you haven't loaned him out. Pablo Hernandez another with his age and everything that's had significantly less minutes than usual. As much as he's a brilliant coach I'm not sure Bielsa would get Leeds anywhere near 10th if say he had Casilla in goal, Berardi somewhere in defence, Douglas at LWB, Forshaw in CM and Hernandez as number 10 as regular starters in prem. That is similar standard to us just sticking with likes of Nyland, Hutton, Whelan. Adomah etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRed Posted April 12, 2021 Visiting Supporter Share Posted April 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: He'd have won promotion before Bielsa. & then relied on goal line technology going wrong to keep you up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 1 minute ago, BigRed said: & then relied on goal line technology going wrong to keep you up. This is a silly talking point. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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