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Yeah, pundits in BBC are horrendous, and would need hefty culling. I can't belive how Lawro is still employed, same with Gobby Savage, at least Hansen is gone from MOTD. Does BBC have somekind of rules written that they're only going to employ ex-Liverpool players?

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Jonathan Pearce should have stuck to commentating in Robot Wars. As stated previously he doesn't half talk some rubbish, and often gets basics wrong.

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This has got to be one of the worst articles ever published in the history of the written word.

 


Do you remember when you could casually fling a banana in the direction of a black player, before regaling a woman walking along the touchline with a rousing chorus of “get your t*** out for the lads”?

Do you remember a time when the question wasn’t whether there would be an outbreak of fighting inside the ground but when; a time when football felt “more real”.

Yeah, those were indeed the days. Bloody awful days, in fact. The days when knuckle-dragging morons were often allowed to do their worst because the authorities couldn’t be bothered to chase them down.

 

It’s still surprising how many people shrugged and assumed this ugliness was the inescapable norm, muttering “that’s football, isn’t it?”. Now, the mood is somewhat different and I’m delighted to say we’ve become admirably intolerant of intolerance.

We no longer routinely accept incidents of racism, sexism, homophobia in and around our stadia to pass with a depressing shrug. Social media, CCTV and better policing help push governing bodies, politicians and clubs to act.

 

In recent years I’ve read many pieces bemoaning how modern football has become too controlled, monitored and safe. Stop the sanitised football, it’s killing the fun, is the cry.

These articles are never written by women or black and ethnic minority fans, since they’ve often been the targets of football bigotry. But the gripes over a supposed lost football past are still met with approving nods, as if the 70s and 80s were an age of working class harmony, when we all roared on our teams and then headed home humming the music from the Hovis ad.

I might even have heard myself spout similar romanticised drivel on occasion. It’s easy and understandable. Of course we liked the noise, the singing, the chants and, in an age when everyone would rather bury their face in an iPhone than dare to talk the person next to them, the fact that football still retains some capacity to physically engage vast numbers of people is to be cherished.

 

But I can remember getting punched in the face at Crystal Palace v Burnley, running for dear life along the Seven Sisters Road away from White Hart Lane, being head-butted by a charging police horse at Stamford Bridge and getting a sound kicking from two members of Her Majesty’s Constabulary at Highbury. In every incident, I had done nothing more than find myself in the wrong place at the wrong time. Random violence at football was a routine hazard in the late 70s and early 80s.

So having recently witnessed hideous reminders of how “great” things used to be, I’m happy to embrace this so-called sanitisation of the sport. In fact, there are times when I would help splash a big bottle of Domestos over it, just to be sure.

 

Last week video evidence emerged of Chelsea’s female club doctor, Eva Carneiro, being abused by fans of Manchester United and Arsenal. I can’t repeat the horrible sexist abuse that was directed at her without wearing out the asterisk key but no one should have to put up with this revolting idiocy in a civilised country.

Foolish apologists say “It’s banter, innit?” That’s a pathetic cop out. It’s criminal behaviour and it should be stamped out.

 

In fact, it’s been a pretty bad week for football. Footballers spitting at one another was a ridiculous spectacle and it is right they should be given extended bans. Not because spitting is “the worst thing you can do” (cliche courtesy of most ex-footballers) but because if we are to demand standards of decent behaviour in and around our football grounds, then we have to start on the pitch.

The invasion at Aston Villa after their FA Cup triumph was another sign of how quickly things can turn nasty. Some of it was prompted mass exuberance but there were unsettling shots of leery looking thugs on the field spoiling for a fight before the final whistle had sounded.

 

We know English football has changed greatly since the introduction of the Premier League. The hike in ticket prices has led to more football tourists and an increase in the so-called prawn sandwich brigade, a more passive, middle class audience that sit back and wait to be entertained. But If there’s a choice between a more subdued atmosphere and being forced to hear to a few hundred fans singing about Auschwitz, the Munich Air Crash or Hillsborough, then I’ll happily take a seat in the football library, thank you very much.

 

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/des-kelly-abuse-spitting-fights--if-this-is-our-great-game-im-happy-in-the-football-library-10095188.html

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That last paragraph is a shocker (and it's not the rest isn't...) what the **** has auschwitz, Munich or hillsborough got to do with what we did on Saturday, ridiculous and insulting to us to even try and link them to our pitch invasion

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The worst thing about it is that it makes no mention of the missiles thrown by some West Brom fans or how the concourse in the North Stand was trashed.

 

I really do despise the media.

The worst thing about it is the author of that "piece" probably didn't even see the game, and is repeating what they read in the gutter press ( and I include the BBC in that). Clearly someone would be more comfortable at Stanford Bridge or Twickenham. People like that love to sit in their ivory towers casting aspersions about how those nasty proles ruined the game for everyone else. They just don't have the self awareness to realise they are the problem.

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Well thats weird. I thought that given we got to enjoy that bizarre biography on Schmeichel at half time on Saturday, there would be a nice piece on someone like Andy Townsend, Dean Saunders or Ugo Ehiogu.....maybe they forgot.

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Well thats weird. I thought that given we got to enjoy that bizarre biography on Schmeichel at half time on Saturday, there would be a nice piece on someone like Andy Townsend, Dean Saunders or Ugo Ehiogu.....maybe they forgot.

In fairness the BBC did do a 10 minute feature about our win against Utd in 57 in the pre match show when we played Leicester 3 weeks ago

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I reckon Mark Lawrenson has a drink problem

He's not a happy drunk then

 

 

Surely he will get canned at the end of the season - Even upset Liverpool supporters with his Baloteli comments now...

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I certainly hope he goes. Hansen was a dinosaur but Lawro's just embarrassing. I'm certain someone at the BBC suggested the idea of getting him to make predictions every week just to show him he's wrong about pretty much everything. He's like that relative you avoid like **** at family occasions, convinced he's the funniest person in the room and shooting everyone else down like a bitter jaded old word removed.

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Just read back a few pages and found this:

Lineker I fine, its the rest of the dicks the BBC employ to point out the obvious

Mark lawrenson is so miserable, I remember listening to him at the WC in brazil and he sounded like he would rather be at home feeding millet to he's pigeons.

Genuine lol moment, started a coughing fit. Everything else in the post is spot on too.

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Bloody hell, Roy Keane sitting next to Alan Shearer in the BBC studio

 

 

So?   It was nearly fifteen years ago when they squared up to each other.  

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