TRO Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 31 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Should have signed Peter Crouch if height is the answer to a weak midfield When you are trying to stop the opposition .....it helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 2 hours ago, a m ole said: Everone here is such an expert in pass direction, I'm sure you'll be able to tell me which of these is Westwood, right? This doesn't fit any narrative of him being complete shit so you won't get an answer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post a m ole Posted September 14, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2016 3 hours ago, bobzy said: This doesn't fit any narrative of him being complete shit so you won't get an answer. funny part is the top one is Lansbury, who it appears managed 2 passes forward all match! Westwood is no. 4, consistently picking out Ayew on the right with forward passes, who in turn was the most dangerous player on the pitch. How many chances did we create in that game? It doesn't tell a story of a midfield not doing its job. 2 and 3 are McCormack and Gardner respectively. it's right to highlight a missed tackle in a series of poor play by the whole defensive unit that lead to a goal but we were highly unfortunate in that respect to concede both shots on target - at least unfortunate enough not to warrant the Ashley Westwood thread being at the very top of the board again with posters regurgitating the same pathetic comments about him being the worst, most cowardly player ever to have lived. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Pathetic coward who only ever passes sideways and is complete shit. Yawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_avfc Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 6 hours ago, a m ole said: funny part is the top one is Lansbury, who it appears managed 2 passes forward all match! Westwood is no. 4, consistently picking out Ayew on the right with forward passes, who in turn was the most dangerous player on the pitch. How many chances did we create in that game? It doesn't tell a story of a midfield not doing its job. 2 and 3 are McCormack and Gardner respectively. it's right to highlight a missed tackle in a series of poor play by the whole defensive unit that lead to a goal but we were highly unfortunate in that respect to concede both shots on target - at least unfortunate enough not to warrant the Ashley Westwood thread being at the very top of the board again with posters regurgitating the same pathetic comments about him being the worst, most cowardly player ever to have lived. This is an excellent post and shows that both Gardner and Westwood are capable of playing a role in this team. My main issue is that the two cannot play together and that is what led to the weak midfield against Forest when it came to defending. As long as we have one of Tshibola or Jedinak who are a bit stronger in the tackle and impose themselves more on the game I think that Gardner or Westwood would be fine. The real issue in midfield is going to be the fitness of Tshibola and/or Jedinak. We need a large number of games out of both of these. As far as Westwood is concerned I thought he was his usual tidy self on Sunday but was partly at fault for both goals conceded. I also thought that Gardner was the better of the two in the Forest game but this was probably the first time this season I'd have said that and I'm not too sure why people feel the need to constantly criticise certain players. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Hopefully he will be dropped today. Both Jedinak and Tshibola are better than him or Gardner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 4 hours ago, tom_avfc said: This is an excellent post and shows that both Gardner and Westwood are capable of playing a role in this team. My main issue is that the two cannot play together and that is what led to the weak midfield against Forest when it came to defending. As long as we have one of Tshibola or Jedinak who are a bit stronger in the tackle and impose themselves more on the game I think that Gardner or Westwood would be fine. The real issue in midfield is going to be the fitness of Tshibola and/or Jedinak. We need a large number of games out of both of these. As far as Westwood is concerned I thought he was his usual tidy self on Sunday but was partly at fault for both goals conceded. I also thought that Gardner was the better of the two in the Forest game but this was probably the first time this season I'd have said that and I'm not too sure why people feel the need to constantly criticise certain players. totally agree, the two of them are too similar to play together if we can help it, as a three with one or both of jed/tish they can do what they do best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 11 hours ago, a m ole said: funny part is the top one is Lansbury, who it appears managed 2 passes forward all match! Westwood is no. 4, consistently picking out Ayew on the right with forward passes, who in turn was the most dangerous player on the pitch. How many chances did we create in that game? It doesn't tell a story of a midfield not doing its job. 2 and 3 are McCormack and Gardner respectively. it's right to highlight a missed tackle in a series of poor play by the whole defensive unit that lead to a goal but we were highly unfortunate in that respect to concede both shots on target - at least unfortunate enough not to warrant the Ashley Westwood thread being at the very top of the board again with posters regurgitating the same pathetic comments about him being the worst, most cowardly player ever to have lived. Agree, it totally unwarranted to come to them conclusions over 1 match. I, myself have come to them conclusions over a period of 3 years. You can defend him over one or two games but not over a prolonged period of three years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, HeyAnty said: Agree, it totally unwarranted to come to them conclusions over 1 match. I, myself have come to them conclusions over a period of 3 years. You can defend him over one or two games but not over a prolonged period of three years it's been shown in this thread over and over that the sideways, backwards passing criticism is at best confirmation bias. Edited September 14, 2016 by a m ole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tismyk Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 3 hours ago, meregreen said: Hopefully he will be dropped today. Both Jedinak and Tshibola are better than him or Gardner. No chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyavfc Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 How did he play? ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Utterly shit tonight. This guy brings absolutely nothing to the team. The invisible man. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 7 minutes ago, meregreen said: Utterly shit tonight. This guy brings absolutely nothing to the team. The invisible man. Just tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 A pretty standard crap performance from him. When will it end? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Non existent incredibly poor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Would prefer Lyden get a run. At least he would put a foot in. FFS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Jedinak and Westwood 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 It's crazy to think we've rebuilt almost the entire team but still have Westwood as an ever present in midfield. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Possibly the single worst performance I have ever seen him give. I'm surprised it hasn't been given more discussion. That's enough for me, I don't need to see anymore. He's not good enough even for this level. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 So the 'hel play better with better players' argument seems a myth already.... tho tbh I don't think he's got good players around him. Wonder what the diminishing 'pro Westwood camp' will come up with next? Absolute dogshit and has been for 95% of the time he has been here. I've no idea why we are now five years down the line and the club still hasn't recognised this. I see his inadequacy in a vital position as a major reason for our downfall. Keeps us ticking for certain. Ticking the wrong **** way. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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