ArteSuave Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) He needs to put on 2 stones full stop. Else he will never be a defender. Drogba Shits things the size of him for breakfastDrogba sh*ts things for breakfast? Edited August 2, 2013 by ArteSuave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaGoMarching Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 I think its on the cards already for Bennent's demise, even if Luna performs as badly as him. Luna is already a fan favourite because of the beard and Joseph Bennett looks like an X-Factor contestant, who's not quite good enough to sing on they're own so they get pushed into becoming a group with some fellow rejects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa87 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 How much did Bennett cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Poor Bennett, he must be looking at everyone else and wondering where it went wrong. One of only 2 youngsters signed last year not to get a new contract and replaced by someone with far superior hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AValon Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 He needs to put on 2 stones full stop. Else he will never be a defender. Drogba Shits things the size of him for breakfast What! Thats it, the new catchword in our house......'I'm off for a Joe Bennett'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuleAthon Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Play him instead of Gabby at left wing and he will come good. Of course that opens up the gabby debate, but that's for another thread. He still could make it at left back, but needs more focus in his game I think. Seems to occasionally miss obvious things- possibly an age thing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Bennett defence force present! Dont make me bust out some heat maps on yer asses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MessiWillSignForVilla Posted August 28, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2013 At the risk of repeating myself from the page before, I want to just get something off of my chest about Bennett. A lot of people seem to be a bit hard on him and want him out of the club ASAP, there has even been suggestions that Stevens is better! Personally, I quite like him and think he could become a good and useful player for us, and I feel the need to put up some sort of defence for him. People get down on him as he started off poorly, which he did, but continue to hold it against him despite improvements in performances. Note that I'm saying his performances have been improved, not necessarily good. This is my problem with this criticism (and what occasionally comes across as despise and hatred), I don't think many people factor into account the circumstances of when he arrived. I'll summarise: - He was only 22 - He's a young left back. Most left backs begin to peak around the age of 25-30, so to expect a 22yo to perform consistently in the premier league is extremely unfair IMO. If a LB is doing well in the PL at that age, it is more than likely that he is very good. - He was playing in the Championship - He stepped up from the Championship, which is a huge step. Not many players can perform in the Championship, and then make the step up to the PL, see Taarabt. It's going to take some bedding in time for him to get used to the pace, physicality and higher technical ability of the league. In the Championship anywhere between 16-24 teams can win the league in August, in the PL, the title is only realistically leaving Manchester for Chelsea. This gulf in quality between teams within the league is also a huge challenge. In the C'ship, you can realistically beat anyone at any time, in the PL, you can more or less predict the outcome of most games, that's probably some getting used to. - He joined on August 29th - He joined late in the transfer window, the season had started and he missed our Pre-Season. He joined with no knowledge of our tactics, probably knew none of our players and would of needed time to settle. With this being during the season, he needed to adjust instantly and had no time to get to know his new team-mates and become familiar with the new tactics he would be playing in. He was thrown into the proverbial deep-end, and I think he kept his head just about afloat. - He was injured when he joined - Added into the above, he had an even tougher time trying to adjust, as he couldn't train, had to learn new tactics without practice, had to watch his new team-mates from a far get to know each other and bond on the training pitch, and on top of it all, he wasn't match fit either. - His debut was in a 4-1 loss as a sub - I bet that didn't help his confidence. He came on when we were 2-1 down against Southampton, and was probably tasked with trying to help claw back an equaliser. Roughly 5 minutes later, Clark scored an own goal which pretty much finished the match, and probably demoralised the entire team. I mean who wouldn't be demoralised losing 3-1 to a newly promoted side, a team that had yet to win also. Then Soton get a fourth at the end. Again, demoralising and probably crushed what little confidence he had. - He was our only Left Back - With Warnock being loaned to Bolton, and despite Stevens' cameos around Sep-Oct (I Highly doubt he'll pull on a Villa shirt again), Bennett was our only natural Left Back. This meant he had the pressure of starting week in, week out just weeks/months after returning from injury and signing for a new (Premier League) club, all at the age of 22. Add in the fact that when he began to start, it was becoming clear we would be embroiled in another relegation battle, so was given the task of helping us get out of that situation. Again, enormous pressure. Slightly contradictory, but still valid, he had no competition and was essentially undropable, so despite the pressure he was under, I would imagine he became somewhat complacent. - Other new signings blossoming - With other lower league signings in Lowton (L1), Westwood (L2) and Benteke (Belgium) all performing very well, it set an unrealistically high expectation of other signings, especially Bennett as he had to make arguably the smallest step up. This put the spotlight on him to perform, and when he didn't live up to expectations, I think many fans lashed out as he was an outlet and an easy target. He didn't perform as well as Lowton/Westwood/Benteke who came from "lesser" leagues so therefore Bennett must be terrible. He's not a bad player and I think people give him too much of a bad time. I firmly believe he will come good this season, with the signing of Luna forcing him to work his arse off to get/stay in the team. Before you write Bennett off, consider the circumstances of his 2012-13 season. Add in the improved performances from March onward, and you begin to see he isn't quite as bad as some make out. He has a long way to go before he can become a good PL player, but I think he will get there. Sorry for the long post, but it annoys me to see fans get on the back of the players, no matter which player, and it annoys me moreso when its a player I think is good. I had a lot to get off my chest. /rantover 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 He is pretty skinny though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 He is pretty skinny though Ha, Fair enough It wouldn't hurt if he bulked up to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I agree with you for the most part, never got the sheer disdain for him last season. That said, Luna already looks like a much better option, attacking and defensively-wise. It's going to take a lot for Bennett to get back into the team at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 That said, Luna already looks like a much better option, attacking and defensively-wise. It's going to take a lot for Bennett to get back into the team at this point. I agree, I don't think Bennett should start as Luna has done well so far, but I wouldn't be displeased to see him start ahead of him, as it shows Bennett has impressed enough in training to dislodge Tony Moon, and is determined to play well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbs Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Always thought Bennett was pretty decent, Luna is out for tonight (injured I think?) so he has got a chance to prove himself. Hopefully he does well and makes the manager think about who starts at left back. There's a decent player in their, just have to watch and see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blunther Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I certainly wouldn't mind seeing Bennett on the wing if ever we wanted to switch to a 4-4-2. I think he's very competent going forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 At the risk of repeating myself from the page before, I want to just get something off of my chest about Bennett. A lot of people seem to be a bit hard on him and want him out of the club ASAP, there has even been suggestions that Stevens is better! Personally, I quite like him and think he could become a good and useful player for us, and I feel the need to put up some sort of defence for him. People get down on him as he started off poorly, which he did, but continue to hold it against him despite improvements in performances. Note that I'm saying his performances have been improved, not necessarily good. This is my problem with this criticism (and what occasionally comes across as despise and hatred), I don't think many people factor into account the circumstances of when he arrived. I'll summarise: - He was only 22 - He's a young left back. Most left backs begin to peak around the age of 25-30, so to expect a 22yo to perform consistently in the premier league is extremely unfair IMO. If a LB is doing well in the PL at that age, it is more than likely that he is very good. - He was playing in the Championship - He stepped up from the Championship, which is a huge step. Not many players can perform in the Championship, and then make the step up to the PL, see Taarabt. It's going to take some bedding in time for him to get used to the pace, physicality and higher technical ability of the league. In the Championship anywhere between 16-24 teams can win the league in August, in the PL, the title is only realistically leaving Manchester for Chelsea. This gulf in quality between teams within the league is also a huge challenge. In the C'ship, you can realistically beat anyone at any time, in the PL, you can more or less predict the outcome of most games, that's probably some getting used to. - He joined on August 29th - He joined late in the transfer window, the season had started and he missed our Pre-Season. He joined with no knowledge of our tactics, probably knew none of our players and would of needed time to settle. With this being during the season, he needed to adjust instantly and had no time to get to know his new team-mates and become familiar with the new tactics he would be playing in. He was thrown into the proverbial deep-end, and I think he kept his head just about afloat. - He was injured when he joined - Added into the above, he had an even tougher time trying to adjust, as he couldn't train, had to learn new tactics without practice, had to watch his new team-mates from a far get to know each other and bond on the training pitch, and on top of it all, he wasn't match fit either. - His debut was in a 4-1 loss as a sub - I bet that didn't help his confidence. He came on when we were 2-1 down against Southampton, and was probably tasked with trying to help claw back an equaliser. Roughly 5 minutes later, Clark scored an own goal which pretty much finished the match, and probably demoralised the entire team. I mean who wouldn't be demoralised losing 3-1 to a newly promoted side, a team that had yet to win also. Then Soton get a fourth at the end. Again, demoralising and probably crushed what little confidence he had. - He was our only Left Back - With Warnock being loaned to Bolton, and despite Stevens' cameos around Sep-Oct (I Highly doubt he'll pull on a Villa shirt again), Bennett was our only natural Left Back. This meant he had the pressure of starting week in, week out just weeks/months after returning from injury and signing for a new (Premier League) club, all at the age of 22. Add in the fact that when he began to start, it was becoming clear we would be embroiled in another relegation battle, so was given the task of helping us get out of that situation. Again, enormous pressure. Slightly contradictory, but still valid, he had no competition and was essentially undropable, so despite the pressure he was under, I would imagine he became somewhat complacent. - Other new signings blossoming - With other lower league signings in Lowton (L1), Westwood (L2) and Benteke (Belgium) all performing very well, it set an unrealistically high expectation of other signings, especially Bennett as he had to make arguably the smallest step up. This put the spotlight on him to perform, and when he didn't live up to expectations, I think many fans lashed out as he was an outlet and an easy target. He didn't perform as well as Lowton/Westwood/Benteke who came from "lesser" leagues so therefore Bennett must be terrible. He's not a bad player and I think people give him too much of a bad time. I firmly believe he will come good this season, with the signing of Luna forcing him to work his arse off to get/stay in the team. Before you write Bennett off, consider the circumstances of his 2012-13 season. Add in the improved performances from March onward, and you begin to see he isn't quite as bad as some make out. He has a long way to go before he can become a good PL player, but I think he will get there. Sorry for the long post, but it annoys me to see fans get on the back of the players, no matter which player, and it annoys me moreso when its a player I think is good. I had a lot to get off my chest. /rantover Are you his Dad??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anything11 Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Although Bennett didn't do anything extraordinary today i did notice a positive attitude change. Losing his place like he did it would be easy for a players head to drop and just end up spiraling but he seems far more determined to make an impact than usual. Most of last season it seemed he was just trying to adapt and "survive" the game but last night i noticed him taking a man on more often and hanging around/making runs into the box. He looked desperate to get on the score sheet and stand out - credit to him for really having a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 think last season he was a player that thought no matter how crap i play ill still be picked next week,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 I thought he looked good yesterday. He needed that competition for his place. I think it will spur him on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westwood Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Play him instead of Gabby at left wing and he will come good. Of course that opens up the gabby debate, but that's for another thread. He still could make it at left back, but needs more focus in his game I think. Seems to occasionally miss obvious things- possibly an age thing though. Are you crazy? He can play that role, but cant replace gabby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folski Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Stat Check: Clean sheets with Bennett in the team 1, without 0 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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