Nigel Posted September 4, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted September 4, 2014 Our achilles heel has always been in replacing the quality we've had. Isnt that the achillies heal of every team, in any sport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfcwills10 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 He'll sign for someone like AC Milan on a pre-contract in January imo. If he does i'll still wish him the best. As already mentioned the fact that he has past injury problems is going to be a sticking point for both parties. He will want a big long contract to protect himself and his family incase he gets injured, and we will be adverse to offering on to an ageing player with an injury history. Will take at least 3 yrs with option for one more on £60k to keep him i reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Our achilles heel has always been in replacing the quality we've had.No Isnt that the achillies heal of every team, in any sport? Recent examples have been extreme, with Bale and Suarez for instance, but it has been done before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folski Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Our achilles heel has always been in replacing the quality we've had. Isnt that the achillies heal of every team, in any sport? Real Madrid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Our achilles heel has always been in replacing the quality we've had. Isnt that the achillies heal of every team, in any sport? Real Madrid? Didnt replace Makelele, won nothing for a while. Zidane said something like "why put another gloss of paint on the ferrari if youre taking out the engine", or something to that effect. Can throw as much money at a probem as you want, doesnt mean you'll fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CVByrne Posted September 5, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) Zidane said - "Why put another layer of gold paint on the Bentley when you are losing the entire engine?" Many Madrid fans think Makelele was the greatest Galactico. Perez quote was the absolute best ever, slightly different opinion to the one held by Zidane - We will not miss Makélelé. His technique is average, he lacks the speed and skill to take the ball past opponents, and ninety percent of his distribution either goes backwards or sideways. He wasn't a header of the ball and he rarely passed the ball more than three metres. Younger players will arrive who will cause Makélelé to be forgotten Hierro said it best about him - I think Claude has this kind of gift – he's been the best player in the team for years but people just don't notice him, don't notice what he does. But you ask anyone at Real Madrid during the years we were talking about and they will tell you he was the best player at Real. We all knew, the players all knew he was the most important. The loss of Makélelé was the beginning of the end for Los Galacticos… You can see that it was also the beginning of a new dawn for Chelsea. He was the base, the key and I think he is the same to Chelsea now. Edited September 5, 2014 by CVByrne 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Perez quote was the absolute best ever, slightly different opinion to the one held by Zidane - We will not miss Makélelé. His technique is average, he lacks the speed and skill to take the ball past opponents, and ninety percent of his distribution either goes backwards or sideways. He wasn't a header of the ball and he rarely passed the ball more than three metres. Younger players will arrive who will cause Makélelé to be forgotten Reminds me of what people say about Westwood. Not that Westwood is of Makelele's quality, but people do seem to under-appreciate those sorts of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Any news on the injury yet? Need him fit for Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 In 6 years at Feyenoord, Vlaar played just over twice the amount of games he's managed for us since 2012. Come the summer he'll be past 30. The risk Vlaar faces is that he can only sign a pre-contract agreement with 6 months remaining on his contract. One bad injury before then could see him without the bumper deal he may otherwise get, so there's a lot for the player to consider too. In a perverse way, we may have gotten the best out of Vlaar in his time here and it could work well for both parties to part at the end of the season. He'll be looking for (and justifiably so) big wages and at least a 3 year deal - taking him to a few months shy of 34 years old. Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge Vlaar fan and I wish his contract was another 24 months longer, but I can also envisage us having another player on huge wages not playing much if he were to stay. Again, I'd be absolutely delighted, but I have a feeling that that delight would last for another 18 months or so. Our achilles heel has always been in replacing the quality we've had. Young, Milner, Laursen, Barry, Petrov, Downing we're either replaced poorly or not at all. If Lambert can convince Randy (or whomever) that replacing the club captain (again) is pivotal to the team, and he uses his time and funds wisely, then I'm happy to see Vlaar leave on a high knowing we've had probably the best 3 years of his career here at Villa. Yeah a lot of this is true, but let's not be chuffed if we lose Vlaar at the end of the season just yet. At the moment we've got a very good central defender. They are in short supply in the premier league. Let's not be the club's accountant, because to be realistic it's not as if we're getting anything especially right. I'd rather have the really consistent player on our books than the millions of pounds of profit in Randy's. It's Football Manager thinking that we can take the Vlaar money and use it on a suitable replacement. If we sell Vlaar, it'll be for his market price. His value will have reflected in it all of the above points. His age, his injury record, the contract he would have to sign for us to keep hold of him. So what happens then is a team comes in, probably a good one, and takes account of all of these things and still buys the player. So either they're idiots, or Randy has cashed in one of our assets. Again. Let's be fans of having good players in our team, not willing participants in a scenario that sends more money Randy's way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_of_Pongo_Waring Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Any news on the injury yet? Need him fit for Saturday Looking at RAWK they all seem convinced that Vlaar is out. I hope they're jumping to conclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 How would they know? I mean, he might be out or he might not, but I don't see how they're in the loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 9, 2014 Moderator Share Posted September 9, 2014 Any news on the injury yet? Need him fit for Saturday Looking at RAWK they all seem convinced that Vlaar is out. I hope they're jumping to conclusions. They are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 He will be having a late fitness test this week according to the Mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 9, 2014 Moderator Share Posted September 9, 2014 I'm expecting him to be fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted September 9, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted September 9, 2014 He's had quite a bit of time to get back to fitness, so fingers crossed. I guess if he's not, it'll be Okore and Senderos as CBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted September 9, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted September 9, 2014 Whats up with his contract offer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 9, 2014 Moderator Share Posted September 9, 2014 Whats up with his contract offer? What offer would that be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KJT123 Posted September 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 9, 2014 Whats up with his contract offer? What offer would that be? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I don't think he'll be offered one / I think they've already agreed Ron can leave next summer on a free as a deal for staying now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I suspect it will be up to a new owner to try and convince him to stay (if we ever get a new owner). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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