Folski Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Also how great was it that Walt lied in every single scene he was in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Notice the picture on the wall? Great scene setting. a good recap at slashfilm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Up to date with the latest of Breaking Bad. Rather good, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Probably goes without saying that this was awesome, as per. However, my memory is failing me slightly: How does Jesse figure out that Saul and Huell took the ricin cigarette off him and that Walt poisoned Brock? Why is he patting himself down so frantically when he's waiting to be picked up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 : How does Jesse figure out that Saul and Huell took the ricin cigarette off him and that Walt poisoned Brock? Why is he patting himself down so frantically when he's waiting to be picked up? He was looking for his dope, which Huell nicked as he went through the door. Jesse realised that if Huell could take his dope without him noticing, he could also take the ricin cigarette. Jesse suspected that happened when he put a gun to Walt's head (last series?) and Walt had to bullshit his way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Ah yes of course, cheers mate . I really need to find the time for a rewatch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Timeline of the cigarette, for those confused by the last episode. Spoilers for those who are not up to date, obviously. Season 4 Walt needs Jesse on his side to get to Gus Context: If you recall, Jesse is the one who tells Walt that Gus seems to have a big hatred for Hector "Tio" Salamanca, then Walt figured out how to plant the bomb on Tio, Gus died... etc etc So Walt forms a scheme to get Jesse to distrust Gus. Walt tells Saul to somehow extract the cigarette from Jesse. Thus Saul has Huell lift the ricin cigarette from Jesse's pocket (most likely by simply trading out the packs, dummy pack for the real one with the ricin). Context: Originally Jesse was somewhat distrustful of Gus, Walt had hatched an earlier plan to have Jesse kill Gus with the ricin. But Jesse was befriended by Gus, and he eventually came to like the guy. Also, if you remember, Saul is frantic to get Jesse to his office, calling him over and over again. It was to get him in the office to get the cigarette off him. Jesse now has a dummy pack of cigarettes. With this in mind, Walt now makes the moves to make Jesse distrust Gus. Walt takes his "Lilly of the Valley" extract and gives it to Jesse's girlfriend's young son Brock. Context: Vince Gilligan, the show's creator, has stated several times that the writers have imagined Walt's delivery system as perhaps a doctored juice box or something of the like. Sneaking into Brock's school to place it in his lunch or even hand it to him would've been fairly rudimentary for a teacher. "Lilly of the Valley" gives pneumonia-like symptoms that appear very severe (the same symptoms that ricin gives when killing someone). So Jesse thought that Brock was poisoned by the ricin. Jesse frantically searches in his cigarette pack only to find, ah! It's not there! (Huell took it!) Jesse bursts into Walt's home, gun in hand demanding Walt to admit that he poisoned Brock with the now missing ricin. Important to note: Jesse says that Huell must have took it when he went to meet Saul. Jesse is no idiot, he was 100% right on his instincts. Walt claims ignorance, saying he has no reason to do so and he has no idea what Jesse is talking about (lying obviously). Through Walt's machinations, he convinces Jesse that it must have been Gus, who has hurt children before (Andrea's brother who shot Combo was killed by some of Gus' lower order thugs). Jesse now doles out the details of Gus' hatred for Hector "Tio" Salamanca leading to Gus' eventual death via Walt's admittedly ingenious scheme. At the end of season 4, the doctors at the hospital tell Jesse that Brock was not poisoned with ricin, but had consumed "Lilly of the Valley" berries in some shape or fashion. Jesse, taken aback, rationalizes with Walt that even though Gus didn't do it, he "had to go," although he is clearly still rattled. Season 5A Walt and Jesse go on a hunt for the missing ricin cigarette (although Walt knows exactly where it's at, and we're even shown Saul throwing the ricin cigarette back to Walt in a plastic bag, making a crack about Huell's "nimble sausage fingers"). Walt is just making a facade to make Jesse think the cigarette was simply misplaced. They "find" the ricin cigarette in Jesse's electronic vacuum (although it was Walt who placed it there). Jesse breaks down in tears, realizing he almost killed Walt over this (as aforementioned when Jesse confronted him in season 4, saying he was the one who took the cigarette and poisoned Brock). Although in reality, the bastard diddeserve it. Season 5B This episode! Jesse is ready to move on with his life, move to Alaska, and just leave ABQ. Saul tells Jesse he can't bring pot to the meet with his "guy." The guy won't be inclined to help a druggie disappear (sensible). Jesse defiantly and silently refuses to give up his stash. Saul leaves the room to get "money bags" and while he is out there he tells Huell to pinch Jesse's stash off him (rewatch the scene, you can actually see him snatch it from Jesse!). Jesse is waiting at the stop, he searches his pockets, at first just simply realizing the pot isn't there. But he looks at his pack of cigarettes and realizes, holy shit, Huell took my pot just now... and they took the ricin just as I had originally thought. Walt has been bullshitting me ever since. From /r/breakingbad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted August 27, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted August 27, 2013 Timeline of the cigarette, for those confused by the last episode. Spoilers for those who are not up to date, obviously. Season 4 Walt needs Jesse on his side to get to Gus Context: If you recall, Jesse is the one who tells Walt that Gus seems to have a big hatred for Hector "Tio" Salamanca, then Walt figured out how to plant the bomb on Tio, Gus died... etc etc So Walt forms a scheme to get Jesse to distrust Gus. Walt tells Saul to somehow extract the cigarette from Jesse. Thus Saul has Huell lift the ricin cigarette from Jesse's pocket (most likely by simply trading out the packs, dummy pack for the real one with the ricin). Context: Originally Jesse was somewhat distrustful of Gus, Walt had hatched an earlier plan to have Jesse kill Gus with the ricin. But Jesse was befriended by Gus, and he eventually came to like the guy. Also, if you remember, Saul is frantic to get Jesse to his office, calling him over and over again. It was to get him in the office to get the cigarette off him. Jesse now has a dummy pack of cigarettes. With this in mind, Walt now makes the moves to make Jesse distrust Gus. Walt takes his "Lilly of the Valley" extract and gives it to Jesse's girlfriend's young son Brock. Context: Vince Gilligan, the show's creator, has stated several times that the writers have imagined Walt's delivery system as perhaps a doctored juice box or something of the like. Sneaking into Brock's school to place it in his lunch or even hand it to him would've been fairly rudimentary for a teacher. "Lilly of the Valley" gives pneumonia-like symptoms that appear very severe (the same symptoms that ricin gives when killing someone). So Jesse thought that Brock was poisoned by the ricin. Jesse frantically searches in his cigarette pack only to find, ah! It's not there! (Huell took it!) Jesse bursts into Walt's home, gun in hand demanding Walt to admit that he poisoned Brock with the now missing ricin. Important to note: Jesse says that Huell must have took it when he went to meet Saul. Jesse is no idiot, he was 100% right on his instincts. Walt claims ignorance, saying he has no reason to do so and he has no idea what Jesse is talking about (lying obviously). Through Walt's machinations, he convinces Jesse that it must have been Gus, who has hurt children before (Andrea's brother who shot Combo was killed by some of Gus' lower order thugs). Jesse now doles out the details of Gus' hatred for Hector "Tio" Salamanca leading to Gus' eventual death via Walt's admittedly ingenious scheme. At the end of season 4, the doctors at the hospital tell Jesse that Brock was not poisoned with ricin, but had consumed "Lilly of the Valley" berries in some shape or fashion. Jesse, taken aback, rationalizes with Walt that even though Gus didn't do it, he "had to go," although he is clearly still rattled. Season 5A Walt and Jesse go on a hunt for the missing ricin cigarette (although Walt knows exactly where it's at, and we're even shown Saul throwing the ricin cigarette back to Walt in a plastic bag, making a crack about Huell's "nimble sausage fingers"). Walt is just making a facade to make Jesse think the cigarette was simply misplaced. They "find" the ricin cigarette in Jesse's electronic vacuum (although it was Walt who placed it there). Jesse breaks down in tears, realizing he almost killed Walt over this (as aforementioned when Jesse confronted him in season 4, saying he was the one who took the cigarette and poisoned Brock). Although in reality, the bastard diddeserve it. Season 5B This episode! Jesse is ready to move on with his life, move to Alaska, and just leave ABQ. Saul tells Jesse he can't bring pot to the meet with his "guy." The guy won't be inclined to help a druggie disappear (sensible). Jesse defiantly and silently refuses to give up his stash. Saul leaves the room to get "money bags" and while he is out there he tells Huell to pinch Jesse's stash off him (rewatch the scene, you can actually see him snatch it from Jesse!). Jesse is waiting at the stop, he searches his pockets, at first just simply realizing the pot isn't there. But he looks at his pack of cigarettes and realizes, holy shit, Huell took my pot just now... and they took the ricin just as I had originally thought. Walt has been bullshitting me ever since. From /r/breakingbad I actually didn't get that! Nice one! All makes a little more sense now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folski Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 the house isn't scorched in the flash forward at all though, so something major must happen to make Jesse change his mind, I'd imagine Walt Jr comes home and Jesse spills the beans to him, though I could be way off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 The majority of TV shows when they announce they are coming to the end disappoint, I'm so confident Breaking Bad wont...it's going to be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted August 27, 2013 Author Share Posted August 27, 2013 Once more I give you: If Breaking Bad took place entirely on facebook - Season 5, Episode 11. And as an extra treat, for those who have watched the recent episode and are up to date on pop culture...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UUD3zyu7Ek&feature=youtube_gdata_player 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted August 28, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted August 28, 2013 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mVq_4BA5DQ Edited August 28, 2013 by villarule123 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted August 28, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted August 28, 2013 Those two videos are great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 The one hole in this whole thing for me at the minute is how Skyler is so supportive of Walt only 6 or 7 months after despising him and saying she was waiting for the cancer to come back and kill him. Not having she'd be with him on the video to Hank and Marie, despite the latter's attempts to nick her baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted August 29, 2013 Author Share Posted August 29, 2013 I don't think it's just Walt who has "broken bad", I think it applies to others too, Skyler especially so. She's smart and proud too, I think she wants to get away with it and I don't think she sees any other alternative now. She knows they have to get away with it or they'll lose everything, including the kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 up to episode 10 of season 5 can't believe how fast I have burnt through the whole thing, I only started it just over a week ago, I am averaging about 3 episode's a day now, well I was but as of tomorrow I'll be up to date unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted August 29, 2013 Author Share Posted August 29, 2013 Then you have to wait like the rest of us schmucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 ok then how's about this for an ending Walt walks in as Jesse is about to torch the house, Walt pointing a gun at Jesse and Jesse holding a lighter ready to drop it. Jesse drops the lighter and Walt shoots him then runs out to escape the fire, he flees not realizing that Walt JR is upstairs. Inconsolable about the death of her son Skylar commits suicide, the DVD is found and Hank is arrested, Walt goes to Saul and arranges a new identity and fakes his death his daughter is left with Marie because he realizes he cant put her in any more danger. Flash forward (or backward) to the scene of Walt in the cafe celebrating his birthday alone because he has no one left...at the same time there is nothing at all to suggest that he has gave up his empire but he may just be running it with no one to share his riches with and is now just waiting round to die (which is also the name of the song from the second series) probably stupid or more than likely F*** loads of plot holes in that but what dya recon or what are you thoughts on how it will end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 It's probably not far off to be honest. I hadn't noticed the lack of people with him before. Also that next door neighbour was _really_ shocked to see him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Upstairs? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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