David-Copenhagen Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 As much as we should rightly criticise his vulnerability in defence, he was also hung out to dry by Lambert. At the end of the first half, there was almost unanimous consensus that Lowton was struggling big time against Young, and good goal scoring opportunities were to likely to be the result of Young constantly skinning him. Everyone could see that. This is not revisionism or hindsight - this was astutely observed by the whole room of people I was watching in, as well as many on the site. But Lambert didn't do anything at half-time to change anything. Surely he noticed the problem? I don't know what he told Lowton to do differently to prevent himself being beaten, dropping deeper or whatever but it didn't work - what was the rationale of keeping Lowton there instead of say Bacuna? It wasn't as if Lowton was offering much in attack either way because he was constantly pegged back by Young(he didn't have the pace to catch him on the break) and everyone knew Bacuna, on the other hand had the pace and athleticism to keep up with Young. These types of situation I feel we shouldn't blame the player but the manager for making him look shit. If you play Barry at fullback against speedy players he's gonna look like dogshit, as he did a few times under DOL - Dennis Rommedahl FFS looked like a world-beater when up against Barry. There's a good player in there - Lowton has showed us glimpses of his ability before, his crossing, his passing and technical ability is all there for everyone to see. It doesn't help when Lambert hangs him out to dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danwichmann Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 As much as we should rightly criticise his vulnerability in defence, he was also hung out to dry by Lambert. At the end of the first half, there was almost unanimous consensus that Lowton was struggling big time against Young, and good goal scoring opportunities were to likely to be the result of Young constantly skinning him. Everyone could see that. This is not revisionism or hindsight - this was astutely observed by the whole room of people I was watching in, as well as many on the site. But Lambert didn't do anything at half-time to change anything. Surely he noticed the problem? I don't know what he told Lowton to do differently to prevent himself being beaten, dropping deeper or whatever but it didn't work - what was the rationale of keeping Lowton there instead of say Bacuna? It wasn't as if Lowton was offering much in attack either way because he was constantly pegged back by Young(he didn't have the pace to catch him on the break) and everyone knew Bacuna, on the other hand had the pace and athleticism to keep up with Young. These types of situation I feel we shouldn't blame the player but the manager for making him look shit. If you play Barry at fullback against speedy players he's gonna look like dogshit, as he did a few times under DOL - Dennis Rommedahl FFS looked like a world-beater when up against Barry. There's a good player in there - Lowton has showed us glimpses of his ability before, his crossing, his passing and technical ability is all there for everyone to see. It doesn't help when Lambert hangs him out to dry.The alternative is Lambert doesn't pick him. At all. Every team in the pl has pace, especially out wide. If lowton can't find(or be coached) a way to deal with it then he should show his worth in another position or be shown the door. Its all good blaming the manager but if he isn't good enough we need someone that is. Well we know that Lowton only played because Hutton wasn't available, so PL has clearly seen he does need a different option to Lowton. It's not so easy to just show a player the door unless someone comes in for him, and even then he'd need replacing as we'd have too little cover for Hutton. I thought the sensible option would have been Bacuna in midfield in place of Wienmann, who could have doubled up on Young and covered Lowton's lack of pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 As much as we should rightly criticise his vulnerability in defence, he was also hung out to dry by Lambert. At the end of the first half, there was almost unanimous consensus that Lowton was struggling big time against Young, and good goal scoring opportunities were to likely to be the result of Young constantly skinning him. Everyone could see that. This is not revisionism or hindsight - this was astutely observed by the whole room of people I was watching in, as well as many on the site. But Lambert didn't do anything at half-time to change anything. Surely he noticed the problem? I don't know what he told Lowton to do differently to prevent himself being beaten, dropping deeper or whatever but it didn't work - what was the rationale of keeping Lowton there instead of say Bacuna? It wasn't as if Lowton was offering much in attack either way because he was constantly pegged back by Young(he didn't have the pace to catch him on the break) and everyone knew Bacuna, on the other hand had the pace and athleticism to keep up with Young. These types of situation I feel we shouldn't blame the player but the manager for making him look shit. If you play Barry at fullback against speedy players he's gonna look like dogshit, as he did a few times under DOL - Dennis Rommedahl FFS looked like a world-beater when up against Barry. There's a good player in there - Lowton has showed us glimpses of his ability before, his crossing, his passing and technical ability is all there for everyone to see. It doesn't help when Lambert hangs him out to dry. Hung out to dry? I guess Lambert should have built his entire team around helping Lowton out then? Maybe Lambert felt Lowton should have played better himself, against one of the most out of form wingers in the PL the last 18 months. ...but yes, Blame Lambert! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biskitt Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I'd have picked Bacuna ahead of him all day long. Although he's not as good as Lowton on the ball, his pace and power helps him out of tricky situations and although his positioning can be a bit suspect ( so is Lowton's ) I've rarely seen Bacuna beaten 1v1 as easily as Lowton was on Saturday. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I'd have picked Bacuna ahead of him all day long. Although he's not as good as Lowton on the ball, his pace and power helps him out of tricky situations and although his positioning can be a bit suspect ( so is Lowton's ) I've rarely seen Bacuna beaten 1v1 as easily as Lowton was on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Should Hutton remain suspension and injury free, i would be surprised if he starts for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I know he is out on loan at the moment, but surely Donacien would be a better back up for Hutton than Lowton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie09 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 (edited) I'd have picked Bacuna ahead of him all day long. Although he's not as good as Lowton on the ball, his pace and power helps him out of tricky situations and although his positioning can be a bit suspect ( so is Lowton's ) I've rarely seen Bacuna beaten 1v1 as easily as Lowton was on Saturday. Fulham away last season is sufficient evidence that Bacuna isn't a right back. Edited December 22, 2014 by Robbie09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Fulham away last season is sufficient evidence that Bacuna isn't a right back. Games like that being the exception for him last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 It doesn't look like Lambert is gonna play Bacuna at right back anyway which is fair enough so we will have to put up with Lowtons lack of pace if Hutton is out again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 He might have had a bad day at Fulham, but he had Hazard in his pocket in the game at VP. Could be a very good RB, but also think he could develop into a nice midfielder.I wouldn't be against the idea of playing Delph, the Rock and Bacuna as a midfield, and playing either Joe Cole or Grealish off CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poitier Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 It doesn't look like Lambert is gonna play Bacuna at right back anyway which is fair enough so we will have to put up with Lowtons lack of pace if Hutton is out again. I hardly think Lowton cemented his place as reserve right back with that display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Still think Lowton gave the best performance I've ever seen from a Villa right back in that Sunderland game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I agree it was as good an attacking display from a fullback at Villa Park, also that goal at Stoke is one of the best ever scored by a Villa player and will live in our memories for ever. However none of these things make him a good defensive fullback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 He hasn't got the pace for wingback and it made him look crap he looked a lot more comfortable when we went to a back four. If we could have Huttons physicality and Lowtons crossing you'd have the perfect fullback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 He's like a "bambi on ice" whens he's defending a cross. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supervillan78 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Anyone else think he'll be shipped out in the summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 The way he defended that cross from young.....If Ron Saunders was in charge, you wouldn't see him again. He cost us a win ...not Gabby Anyone else think he'll be shipped out in the summer? should be....but don't expect much of a fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I think thats harsh. Young has done that to many fullbacks throughout his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 (edited) I think thats harsh. Young has done that to many fullbacks throughout his career. I wasn't looking at Young....I was looking at Lowton and how he shaped up. and there is quite a few in recent seasons that Young hasn't done it too. all players are good....if you let em be. Edited December 23, 2014 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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