supermon Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 His role in breaking up play so far up the pitch is pretty important considering we do not have a battling DM to do that job, if he could only add some creativity to his play then we would have a well rounded midfielder. For the system we play, i think KEA is showing signs of progress. Our players need some training ground drills on how to cross a ball, beggars belief how poor our crosses are sometimes, these are premiership footballers for god sake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted March 3, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted March 3, 2014 Really? They were one of the worst teams I've seen at villa park this season. Not taking anything away from our victory because I'm sure the way we played helped add to that but I thought they were really poor. KEA is not responsible for the quality or form of the opposition. He had a good game. Try and give credit where it is due for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 KEA did well against a piss poor Norwich side, let's not go crazy.Norwich are not 'piss poor' Really? They were one of the worst teams I've seen at villa park this season. Not taking anything away from our victory because I'm sure the way we played helped add to that but I thought they were really poor. Or maybe, maybe, villa made them look poor? They beat spurs last week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Really? They were one of the worst teams I've seen at villa park this season. Not taking anything away from our victory because I'm sure the way we played helped add to that but I thought they were really poor. KEA is not responsible for the quality or form of the opposition. He had a good game. Try and give credit where it is due for a change. I did but i'm not getting carried away. If Holt had come on and scored I'd have given him credit but would also take into account the game. KEA did well against a piss poor Norwich side, let's not go crazy.Norwich are not 'piss poor'Really? They were one of the worst teams I've seen at villa park this season. Not taking anything away from our victory because I'm sure the way we played helped add to that but I thought they were really poor. Or maybe, maybe, villa made them look poor? They beat spurs last week Yes and how have they done the rest of the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 3, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted March 3, 2014 He's a relenltless presser and he has decent touch on the ball but he doesn't always make great decisions. Last season he was constantly getting caught ahead of the play and leaving us exposed, he's been much better positionally this year. Good squad player but if I'm honest I see more in Delph and Westwood overall. Without looking up stats (feel free to correct me), compared to Delph and Westwood, KEA has: - More goals - Nope - More assists - Nope - More tackles - Nope (although does have more per game) - More "Key passes" - Nope - Less minutes - correct Yep. Definitely more in Delph and Westwood. Ok. Corrections in bold Alrighty. Make me look them up, then. Here you go: - More goals than Westwood. Same goals as Delph. - So not more than Delph AND Westwood, like you said. - Same assists as Delph, 1 less than Westwood - So not more than Delph AND Westwood, like you said. - More tackles per game time. - That's what I said - Less minutes - see above Again: Delph and Westwood are obvious standouts in comparison..... ... NOT. Thank you for clarifying your earlier erroneous statements. I rate KEA. I think he's a decent player (although I wouldn't have him ahead of Delph or Westwood FWIW). But I think the stick KEA has gotten is unjust. Good player. But you did ask us to correct you if you were wrong. I was just doing what you asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Norwich certainly showed they can move the football around especially up until Benteke equalised - we could've been 2-0 down by then too. Yes, Norwich then imploded much to my relief but they're not piss-poor. Like us, they're inconsistant, capable of winning difficult matches and then screwing up games they should get something out of. As for KEA - his break up and pressing play is just what we need in certain games. Yesterday he was a definate factor in us winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 He's a relenltless presser and he has decent touch on the ball but he doesn't always make great decisions. Last season he was constantly getting caught ahead of the play and leaving us exposed, he's been much better positionally this year. Good squad player but if I'm honest I see more in Delph and Westwood overall. Without looking up stats (feel free to correct me), compared to Delph and Westwood, KEA has: - More goals - Nope - More assists - Nope - More tackles - Nope (although does have more per game) - More "Key passes" - Nope - Less minutes - correct Yep. Definitely more in Delph and Westwood. Ok. Corrections in bold Alrighty. Make me look them up, then. Here you go: - More goals than Westwood. Same goals as Delph. - So not more than Delph AND Westwood, like you said. - Same assists as Delph, 1 less than Westwood - So not more than Delph AND Westwood, like you said. - More tackles per game time. - That's what I said - Less minutes - see above Again: Delph and Westwood are obvious standouts in comparison..... ... NOT. Thank you for clarifying your earlier erroneous statements. I rate KEA. I think he's a decent player (although I wouldn't have him ahead of Delph or Westwood FWIW). But I think the stick KEA has gotten is unjust. Good player. But you did ask us to correct you if you were wrong. I was just doing what you asked. Where you "lose" me there is you say KEA is a good player, yet you prefer Westwood and Delph. So why are we so consistently overran in midfield? Why do we struggle to retain and win back possession so often in that area of the park? I think I already know the answer, or at least have an opinion on that because like you I think all three are decent enough for this level. I'm interested in your take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Yes and how have they done the rest of the season? How have we done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 3, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted March 3, 2014 He's a relenltless presser and he has decent touch on the ball but he doesn't always make great decisions. Last season he was constantly getting caught ahead of the play and leaving us exposed, he's been much better positionally this year. Good squad player but if I'm honest I see more in Delph and Westwood overall. Without looking up stats (feel free to correct me), compared to Delph and Westwood, KEA has: - More goals - Nope - More assists - Nope - More tackles - Nope (although does have more per game) - More "Key passes" - Nope - Less minutes - correct Yep. Definitely more in Delph and Westwood. Ok. Corrections in bold Alrighty. Make me look them up, then. Here you go: - More goals than Westwood. Same goals as Delph. - So not more than Delph AND Westwood, like you said. - Same assists as Delph, 1 less than Westwood - So not more than Delph AND Westwood, like you said. - More tackles per game time. - That's what I said - Less minutes - see above Again: Delph and Westwood are obvious standouts in comparison..... ... NOT. Thank you for clarifying your earlier erroneous statements. I rate KEA. I think he's a decent player (although I wouldn't have him ahead of Delph or Westwood FWIW). But I think the stick KEA has gotten is unjust. Good player. But you did ask us to correct you if you were wrong. I was just doing what you asked. Where you "lose" me there is you say KEA is a good player, yet you prefer Westwood and Delph. So why are we so consistently overran in midfield? Why do we struggle to retain and win back possession so often in that area of the park? I think I already know the answer, or at least have an opinion on that because like you I think all three are decent enough for this level. I'm interested in your take. Mainly because I think they all play the same position. Simple as that really. They're all decent but you can't play 3 water carriers in the same midfield. Doesn't really matter how good they are. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Yes and how have they done the rest of the season? How have we done? Not very well. What's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avflife Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) I've probably been his biggest critic all season, but he was my MOTM on Sunday. First to every ball, playing well in a more advanced position (PL's new 'number 10' ) and cleaning up if Westwood wasn't able to. I would still prefer Westy and Delph alongside another new signing in the Summer, but if he preforms like he did on Sunday in the last 10 games of the season we might not have to. Edited March 4, 2014 by Avflife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 He didn't play too badly against a poor Norwich team. But looking at his performances overall in his time at the club, he's a pretty poor player. We need to replace him with much better if we are ever to break out of this depressing cycle of relegation fights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I love this now its a poor Norwich side, the same Norwich side who defeated a Spurs side, would have been brimming with confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Yeah the same poor Norwich team who have a player we desperately wanted to sign! Irony is lost on some I think; they're a decent team and there are worse teams in the PL...well five of them according to the PL table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I love this now its a poor Norwich side, the same Norwich side who defeated a Spurs side, would have been brimming with confidence. One result doesn't make them a great team and the performances of KEA are usually not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Although they have been over recent games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I love this now its a poor Norwich side, the same Norwich side who defeated a Spurs side, would have been brimming with confidence. One result doesn't make them a great team and the performances of KEA are usually not good enough. I didn't say they were a great team either, I wish you'd actually read what people write before responding. But i'll have to explain it at a lower granular level for you, we beat a side comfortably and its the opposition are poor, but the same poor team beat Spurs. How about giving our side some credit, but hey that might be too difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Said it before but I think our three main cms would look a lot better beside a really good so round midfielder. Our problem is that we need someone on there with any 2 of them to be able to control the game. Add that and I think any combination of the other two would look very good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggy Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 We do have a homogeneous midfield which KEA is certainly a part of but he has improved this season and I no longer groan when I see his name on the team sheet. We actually look more solid with him in the team than out of it but he might still need to do more to convince everyone that he should be an automatic choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I love this now its a poor Norwich side, the same Norwich side who defeated a Spurs side, would have been brimming with confidence. One result doesn't make them a great team and the performances of KEA are usually not good enough. I didn't say they were a great team either, I wish you'd actually read what people write before responding. But i'll have to explain it at a lower granular level for you, we beat a side comfortably and its the opposition are poor, but the same poor team beat Spurs. How about giving our side some credit, but hey that might be too difficult. Maybe you should take your own advice. I gave him credit but I'm not going to get carried away when he's consistently performed poorly and then puts in a decent performance against a poor team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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