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  1. Gah. I could care less about Roy Keane, but I'm really not following your objections. He doesn't have a stellar record in management? Well, quelle surprise. That might be why he's being offered a job as assistant manager. The thing about managers with unblemished records of success, is that clubs often want to appoint them as managers. On that basis would you be happy to have Lambert as an assistant manager after watching the drivel his team has produced over the past two seasons? My objections to Keane coming in go further than that. I'm concerned about how he will react under
  2. We're not exactly able to attract many good players whilst we're in ownership limbo. I'm not sure why people think we have many options when adding to the squad at this stage. Yes mate that's the most frustrating thing of all and you are right.
  3. The problem is though that Vlaar won't play a full season for us and we will have to rely on our second string centre backs at some stage in the season. Okore is also coming back from a major injury and will need time to adjust even if there is no recurrence of the injury. We therefore desperately need a decent 3rd choice centre back and Senderos wouldn't fill me with a lot of confidence.
  4. Lambert winning the European Cup had no influence whatsoever on the team during his time here. I don't see a failed manager coming in even if it is Roy Keane will make any difference to that. I disagree. Roy Keane is as high profile a player as you get. I wouldn't be surprised if half our players had no idea that Lambert was a Champions League winner. Roy Keane left Man Utd 9 years ago. Given the age of most of our players, they would've watched him on tv as they were growing up. They'll know all about him and, I'm guessing, that the no.2 will spend more time with them than the manag
  5. Lambert winning the European Cup had no influence whatsoever on the team during his time here. I don't see a failed manager coming in even if it is Roy Keane will make any difference to that.
  6. I'm not sure being in the bottom 3 with a newly promoted side is exactly a failure. As for Ipswich, I thought he finished 15th... Anyway... its all fairly irrelevant given that he isn't being appointed as our manager. There are plenty of people who have been very successful as number 2's and total failures as managers when trying to go it alone. I will judge Keane as an assistant manager on his time here rather than the time he has previously spent in an entirely different role. I think when Keane left Ipswich they were 19th. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Keane Like
  7. I'm not sure being in the bottom 3 with a newly promoted side is exactly a failure. As for Ipswich, I thought he finished 15th... Anyway... its all fairly irrelevant given that he isn't being appointed as our manager. There are plenty of people who have been very successful as number 2's and total failures as managers when trying to go it alone. I will judge Keane as an assistant manager on his time here rather than the time he has previously spent in an entirely different role. I think when Keane left Ipswich they were 19th. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Keane Like
  8. So he is definitely coming to us then?
  9. We'll have to agree to differ then because as I've already said there are elements within a manager's job than can also be transferred to a number two and vice versa such as system choice and getting the players to play within the system and motivational skills. Keane has been found wanting on both even back in the Championship so on that basis it's certainly not nonsense to question his probable appointment with us and if you include his temperament on and off the pitch especially since we've already sacked a coach, or coaches for bullying for me it really isn't the way to go.
  10. Comparing the records of Keane to Mourinho in any shape or form is ridiculous.
  11. Yeah that's more than fair but in some cases there really isn't a distinction between the two and that's what I'm getting at. It can be more of a partnership than something clearly defined with both the manager and coach/number two exchanging responsibilities on the day to day running of the team depending upon the circumstances which was why I brought the point up about Keane's record as a manager when clearly he would have had some input in coaching his teams. So you could say the best course of action would be to give him a flipping chance first before writing him off based on his manageria
  12. Yeah that's more than fair but in some cases there really isn't a distinction between the two and that's what I'm getting at. It can be more of a partnership than something clearly defined with both the manager and coach/number two exchanging responsibilities on the day to day running of the team depending upon the circumstances which was why I brought the point up about Keane's record as a manager when clearly he would have had some input in coaching his teams. So you could say the best course of action would be to give him a flipping chance first before writing him off based on his manageri
  13. yep. What's your point? yep. What's your point? And why is it in this thread about the future assistant manager of the club? I would have thought the point would have been obvious but obviously not. We are talking about the merits of Roy Keane coming in as a coach/number two/motivator. I asked the question what does a manager do? Does a manager have any influence on the training pitch? If he does then a manager should also be judged on his coaching ability to get the team playing well. Keane has had minimal success as a manager so why would he suddenly become a good coach or motivator when
  14. Alls good and no need for the sarky.
  15. yep. What's your point? yep. What's your point? And why is it in this thread about the future assistant manager of the club? I would have thought the point would have been obvious but obviously not. We are talking about the merits of Roy Keane coming in as a coach/number two/motivator. I asked the question what does a manager do? Does a manager have any influence on the training pitch? If he does then a manager should also be judged on his coaching ability to get the team playing well. Keane has had minimal success as a manager so why would he suddenly become
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