Houlston Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Kendrick always plays it safe and has done all season bar the last two games when he has been hinting to McLeishs exit. There is no way he would go balls out with todays headline if he didnt know it to be true. I suppose the only discussion really is whether Villa will announce it today or tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 This is probably one to ask of the mods, but, has there ever been a topic in the history of VT where every single fan wants the same thing and has the same opinion? Its Insania! I want him to stay!!! Nah...just kidding!!! At least he finally achieved not getting relegated from PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Timothy Abraham @TimothyAbraham Also heard a RUMOUR that any potential pay-off would be lower if the #AVFC finished with less than 40 points. Most clubs employ a manager with high hopes, someting like : New job, new prospects. We will give you a bonus when we sail past 75 points. We build in that if we don't get to 40 points..... :oops: Is it just me or what, at what point does a club like ours build in 40 points to a bonus. Surely it should be 40 points by Jan 1st or you are out, zero pay off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I imagine the contract has a tiered bonus arrangement written in So less than 40 points may indeed = £0 bonus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newry_Villan Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 needless to say no work shall be done today. There shall be constant refreshing going on with my HTC and and jubilant dancing up the aisles in work when it is confirmed!! SAVE US JEBUS!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walmley_Villa Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Timothy Abraham @TimothyAbraham Also heard a RUMOUR that any potential pay-off would be lower if the #AVFC finished with less than 40 points. Would explain why McLeish was so piised off yesterday BUT.... if true why play 7 defenders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 14, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted May 14, 2012 I don't think that's a bonus as such. It's not "If you get to 40 points you get a bonus" it's more like "If you don't get to 40 points we get to sack you with less of a payment" It's not a reward for getting 40 points, it's a punishment for not getting 40 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I can't believe that McLeish would think that he is entitled to any kind of bonus? People saying he's a nice guy e.t.c the bloke has no honor if he did he would quit and walk away and not aim for any kind of severance package For what exactly? He's been paid a rediculous amount of money up to this point for delivering jack shit.... GTFO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 People saying he's a nice guy e.t.c the bloke has no honour if he did he would quit and walk away and not aim for any kind of severance package. Nice guy or not, he will be perfectly aware that no PL club will touch him now. He has some lean financial years ahead of him, and he needs to get the biggest payout he can. Hence all the remarks about planning for next season. "I did everything I could, and it was a complete shock when I was sacked, your honour." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I imagine the contract has a tiered bonus arrangement written in So less than 40 points may indeed = £0 bonus I suppose that how it works but even so, why is someone still allowed into Villa Park with a record like his is unreal. It should be less than 60 points to start with. Don't matter now, won't be long. Maybe after the last 2 seasons they will larn a valuable lesson, we will see. Without a proper transfer fund the new guy is as dead as the current manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadoftrinity Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Kendrick was spot on with his info when Houllier was off, think it turned out to be a day of waiting though so feel pretty confident McLeish is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Timothy Abraham @TimothyAbraham Also heard a RUMOUR that any potential pay-off would be lower if the #AVFC finished with less than 40 points. Most clubs employ a manager with high hopes, someting like : New job, new prospects. We will give you a bonus when we sail past 75 points. We build in that if we don't get to 40 points..... :oops: Is it just me or what, at what point does a club like ours build in 40 points to a bonus. Surely it should be 40 points by Jan 1st or you are out, zero pay off. I would imagine there are a series of these things in the contract which cover bonus' for extreme success to stuff about almost destroying the club. Obviously, for this season all of the bonus' etc I imagine are hardly close to being realised Also, 40 pts by Jan 1st or off is one heck of a high standard, would see most clubs from about 4th downwards getting rid of their manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond_Joe_Quimby Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I feel pretty confident hes gone just whether its today or tomorrow, personally i hope today DING DONG THE WITCH IS (NEARLY) DEAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul33 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I know its not the thing to say but I really think we will be making a big mistake to get rid of McLeish. His track record shows that he always improves in his second season and, whether you like it or not, he has made us stronger defensively and helped develop some of our younger players too. Get a couple of decent players in this summer and give him a chance to establish his style and I think we can go places. Alternatively ........... ...... get rid of the useless ginger air bandit right now and get the party started !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 It'll be a day of F5ing today a very small part of me is not looking forward to the new manager search and the VT faithful slagging of every candidate even if they have won the champions league, FA cups, history of vastly improving struggling sides etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CrackpotForeigner Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Without a proper transfer fund the new guy is as dead as the current manager. Disagree strongly. The manager's job is to: Conduct transfers Supervise and direct coaching Decide on tactics Motivate the players Seeing as we failed to score from one single set-piece this season, and conceded plenty, I think it's safe to say he has been a failure at the second (if you didn't think the football was dismal enough). Winning seven games out of 38 suggests a lack of match-winning tactics, even if you didn't watch what was happening. And I don't think there would be many who would argue that the Villa players have been highly motivated this season. As far as transfers go there are plenty of clubs who have bought better players than we have for less money than we spent on, say, N'Zogbia. Newcastle, Swansea, Norwich to name three. But in any case if you coach and motivate players and are tactically smart you shouldn't need to spend zillions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Without a proper transfer fund the new guy is as dead as the current manager. This is the crux, if Lerner is not willing to invest, we will struggle to attract any decent manager I do think Lerner will open his wallet again though for signings but keep an eye on wages this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I'm not sure, I think anyone who comes in will be welcomed as they are an improvement on McLeish. DISCLAIMER - As long is it isn't Kean, Connor, Bruce, McCarthy or Megson. I doubt even Faulkner and Lerner could **** it up 3 times on the bounce though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Lambert finished higher than us with less money to spend, so did rodgers. So the theory that without big money the new manager would be as dead as this one is just plain wrong. We will raise funds from sales. sign a few and any decent manager will have us in the top half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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