TRO Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Everton fan in peace here! Thought i'd just pass on the lowdown with Moyes. Most likely you'll have heard the comments from Phil McNulty about Moyes, these appear to have been given to Phil from our PR pesron. A few people have said "Why hasnt there been a denial from Moyes?" Well there has. He spoke at the end of last season, and also a few weeks ago that he was not interested in the job, Alan Irivne also came out last week after speaking to Moyes and again confirmed he wasn't interested in the job. I honeslty dont know how many more times he has to distance himself from the position. It seems uninformed press and "ITK's" keep pushing the agenda when nothing is there, it's unfair on both sets of fans and hoepfully should be put to bed now. No disrespect intended at all but I personally don't see Moyes to Villa being a logical step-up in his career. I've always viewed us and Villa as being in a very similair boat. Both teams with a rich heritage, strong fan bases but both looked down upon by wider media. A move to Villa would be a sideways step as we're both trapped under the glass ceiling of the champions league. A shame really. Just tought i'd throw in thse few little bits and hopefully clear a couple of things. Hope the job hunt yields something for you and i'll pray alongside you that mcLeish doesn't get the job. i'd hang myself. Brum played the worst football in the PL for the last two years. Dire dire dire dire stuff and you deserve better than that hoof merchant. Good post and i tend to agree, i too don't think there is any mileage in Moyes coming to us, for a slightly different reason. I don't think Moyes has done anything special for Everton, for us to be falling over ourselves to get him.....We are similar clubs in status and on the basis of what Moyes has done we will have 9 years of much the same. I think Moyes and Villa will be a match well suited and I think Everton as a club need a Fresh Face.....someone like Owen Coyle, maybe a good move all round, or even Owen Coyle to us...... but i think we all need freshening up. I'm not being disrespectful to him or Everton, but I think 9 years doing what he has done is time up and time for a fresh challenge......He is not going to get one of the really big jobs, in the same vein as Martin O'Neill hasn't, because they havn't proved to be quite good enough. albeit, both decent managers. I don't know who we will end up with, but I'm sure it won't be anyone who will set the heart strings racing.....It will be oh well, off we go again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowDoINotLikeThat Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 He's resigned due to players leaving nothing to do with Villa. Thought the Blues had just signed some players couple days back ? Marlon King and someone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Pat Murphy (hi Pat I know you are reading so switch your phone onto silent next time you are on air :winkold:) commented that our club was in football sense lacking good leadership that knew what it was doing .. If we appoint McLeish then I'll be inclined to agree with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieB Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 No offense intended Julie but so what? No offence taken....I'm just saying that I can see the sense in getting somoene in who so obviously has an awful lot of interest in youth . Graham Rix is available I'm just saying Julie a knowledge or interest in young players doesn't make someone a good manager. My head is too full of conspiracy theories of whose going where ...to argue back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Get over Moyes, he isn't coming. That's not even realistic. Don't know why everyone's heart is set on Moyes when Hughton is available. He's a perfectly good manager with a good transfer record. Got Newcastle promoted and then kept them mid-table. Why would Lerner even consider shite like McLeish when Hughton is available? Do me a favour mate and **** OFF. Steve, I join you in that. What a condescending tosser he is, wonder if he blows his nose after talking out of it. Cheers Dodgy. :winkold: **** Man City knob on OUR forum, telling us who to appoint. Condescending bastard. Their fans have become complete retards since they built up success from scratch through the 90s and 00s.... sorry, what am I on about. Their fans have become complete retards since they had some billionaire come in and turn them from relegation candidates into a top four team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regular_john Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Villa_Insider Seriously. Everyone, breathe. As it stands, nothing has changed apart from peripheral events. The core remains the same. ^The only source I know of reporting Moyes to Villa, surely that says it all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wedge Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Everton > Citeh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-67 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Pat Murphy (hi Pat I know you are reading so switch your phone onto silent next time you are on air :winkold:) commented that our club was in football sense lacking good leadership that knew what it was doing .. If we appoint McLeish then I'll be inclined to agree with him Pat Murphy is just as bad as any other journalist. He is NOT a Villa fan despite people claiming he is. He's not even a keen footballing person. Cricket is his first love but he covers football as it's part of his job. If you are reading this Pat, I think you're a bitter cretin, bent out of shape because Villa won't give you information any more. Chris Moore, Teaching mate of yours says hi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehardvillan Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Everton fan in peace here! Thought i'd just pass on the lowdown with Moyes. Most likely you'll have heard the comments from Phil McNulty about Moyes, these appear to have been given to Phil from our PR pesron. A few people have said "Why hasnt there been a denial from Moyes?" Well there has. He spoke at the end of last season, and also a few weeks ago that he was not interested in the job, Alan Irivne also came out last week after speaking to Moyes and again confirmed he wasn't interested in the job. I honeslty dont know how many more times he has to distance himself from the position. It seems uninformed press and "ITK's" keep pushing the agenda when nothing is there, it's unfair on both sets of fans and hoepfully should be put to bed now. No disrespect intended at all but I personally don't see Moyes to Villa being a logical step-up in his career. I've always viewed us and Villa as being in a very similair boat. Both teams with a rich heritage, strong fan bases but both looked down upon by wider media. A move to Villa would be a sideways step as we're both trapped under the glass ceiling of the champions league. A shame really. Just tought i'd throw in thse few little bits and hopefully clear a couple of things. Hope the job hunt yields something for you and i'll pray alongside you that mcLeish doesn't get the job. i'd hang myself. Brum played the worst football in the PL for the last two years. Dire dire dire dire stuff and you deserve better than that hoof merchant. Good post and i tend to agree, i too don't think there is any mileage in Moyes coming to us, for a slightly different reason. I don't think Moyes has done anything special for Everton, for us to be falling over ourselves to get him.....We are similar clubs in status and on the basis of what Moyes has done we will have 9 years of much the same. I think Moyes and Villa will be a match well suited and I think Everton as a club need a Fresh Face.....someone like Owen Coyle, maybe a good move all round, or even Owen Coyle to us...... but i think we all need freshening up. I'm not being disrespectful to him or Everton, but I think 9 years doing what he has done is time up and time for a fresh challenge......He is not going to get one of the really big jobs, in the same vein as Martin O'Neill hasn't, because they havn't proved to be quite good enough. albeit, both decent managers. I don't know who we will end up with, but I'm sure it won't be anyone who will set the heart strings racing.....It will be oh well, off we go again. Wow! I think you made your point with 4 posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papillon Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Sure going to Villa would be a sideways step for Moyes, nobody in the world is denying that. However, that is not important at all anymore. Because the top clubs are never going to give him a job so we can leave that out of the question. The difference with Villa and Everton is of course that he will have money and new opportunities. He has reached the optimum level at Everton and the squad is slowly declining in ability without him being able to buy new players. Perhaps not a big reason to change a comfortable life situation, but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukes Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Get over Moyes, he isn't coming. That's not even realistic. Don't know why everyone's heart is set on Moyes when Hughton is available. He's a perfectly good manager with a good transfer record. Got Newcastle promoted and then kept them mid-table. Why would Lerner even consider shite like McLeish when Hughton is available? Do me a favour mate and **** OFF. X 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_of_Pongo_Waring Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Hughes was supposedly out of the runing because he resigned so surely that makes it unlikely McCleish will be approached after doing the same thing. It makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingeightyone Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Can we get a poll going regarding Mcleish? I truelly feel that our voice needs to be heard on this one. Surely if we can stop Mclaren we can stop Mcleish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiemaher Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Everton fan in peace here! Thought i'd just pass on the lowdown with Moyes. Most likely you'll have heard the comments from Phil McNulty about Moyes, these appear to have been given to Phil from our PR pesron. A few people have said "Why hasnt there been a denial from Moyes?" Well there has. He spoke at the end of last season, and also a few weeks ago that he was not interested in the job, Alan Irivne also came out last week after speaking to Moyes and again confirmed he wasn't interested in the job. I honeslty dont know how many more times he has to distance himself from the position. It seems uninformed press and "ITK's" keep pushing the agenda when nothing is there, it's unfair on both sets of fans and hoepfully should be put to bed now. No disrespect intended at all but I personally don't see Moyes to Villa being a logical step-up in his career. I've always viewed us and Villa as being in a very similair boat. Both teams with a rich heritage, strong fan bases but both looked down upon by wider media. A move to Villa would be a sideways step as we're both trapped under the glass ceiling of the champions league. A shame really. Just tought i'd throw in thse few little bits and hopefully clear a couple of things. Hope the job hunt yields something for you and i'll pray alongside you that mcLeish doesn't get the job. i'd hang myself. Brum played the worst football in the PL for the last two years. Dire dire dire dire stuff and you deserve better than that hoof merchant. Good sense at last. I agree with you about Villa and Everton being close on heritage, fan base and being just below that glass ceiling as far as CL goes. The only advantage Moyes would have coming to Villa is more money to spend on players. I hope you agree with that. This would be the only positive, but still not a huge difference. The financial state of Everton is over-sold by the media. While we do have to sell-to-buy we're not in a situation where we have to sell-to-get-by, if that makes sense. Moyes has never been forced to sell a player and when players have been sold he is always given every penny to re-invest. While Villa are in a position to front the money you do seem to be in the sad situation were the "star" players seem to keep moving on, if that be for money because they're a greedy little so and so *cough cough gareth barry** or if they want to go on to win things, ala Ashley Young. While the constraints at Everton are frustraitng I don't see the finances at Villa being enough for him to take a sideways step. it appears that some belt tigtening, especially with wages, will have to take place with you, so the financial landscape is probably not a million miles away from each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMB Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I'm sure Mcleish isn't being considered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryod11 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Sure going to Villa would be a sideways step for Moyes, nobody in the world is denying that. However, that is not important at all anymore. Because the top clubs are never going to give him a job so we can leave that out of the question. The difference with Villa and Everton is of course that he will have money and new opportunities. He has reached the optimum level at Everton and the squad is slowly declining in ability without him being able to buy new players. Perhaps not a big reason to change a comfortable life situation, but you never know. great point.. I feel that moyes would definitely be interested in coming to Villa despite what some people are saying.. However, it might be too good to be sure and we're probably all getting our hopes up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Hughes was supposedly out of the runing because he resigned so surely that makes it unlikely McCleish will be approached after doing the same thing. It makes no sense. I don't buy the hughes loyalty theory. IMO - whoever our manager is will have to work with\for Faulkner. I am not sure Faulkner would be able to easily impose his will on Mark Hughes - thats why we went for Martinez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiemaher Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Everton fan in peace here! Thought i'd just pass on the lowdown with Moyes. Most likely you'll have heard the comments from Phil McNulty about Moyes, these appear to have been given to Phil from our PR pesron. A few people have said "Why hasnt there been a denial from Moyes?" Well there has. He spoke at the end of last season, and also a few weeks ago that he was not interested in the job, Alan Irivne also came out last week after speaking to Moyes and again confirmed he wasn't interested in the job. I honeslty dont know how many more times he has to distance himself from the position. It seems uninformed press and "ITK's" keep pushing the agenda when nothing is there, it's unfair on both sets of fans and hoepfully should be put to bed now. No disrespect intended at all but I personally don't see Moyes to Villa being a logical step-up in his career. I've always viewed us and Villa as being in a very similair boat. Both teams with a rich heritage, strong fan bases but both looked down upon by wider media. A move to Villa would be a sideways step as we're both trapped under the glass ceiling of the champions league. A shame really. Just tought i'd throw in thse few little bits and hopefully clear a couple of things. Hope the job hunt yields something for you and i'll pray alongside you that mcLeish doesn't get the job. i'd hang myself. Brum played the worst football in the PL for the last two years. Dire dire dire dire stuff and you deserve better than that hoof merchant. Good post and i tend to agree, i too don't think there is any mileage in Moyes coming to us, for a slightly different reason. I don't think Moyes has done anything special for Everton, for us to be falling over ourselves to get him.....We are similar clubs in status and on the basis of what Moyes has done we will have 9 years of much the same. However,I think Moyes and Villa would be a match well suited and I think Everton as a club need a Fresh Face.....someone like Owen Coyle, maybe a good move all round, or even Owen Coyle to us...... but i think we all need freshening up. I'm not being disrespectful to him or Everton, but I think 9 years doing what he has done is time up and time for a fresh challenge......He is not going to get one of the really big jobs, in the same vein as Martin O'Neill hasn't, because they havn't proved to be quite good enough. albeit, both decent managers. I don't know who we will end up with, but I'm sure it won't be anyone who will set the heart strings racing.....It will be oh well, off we go again. Coyle to Everton is something i'd certainly be interested in. Though i'd like to see how he progresses, alot has been said about Coyle getting Bolton playing attractive football (which they did for three games in January) but on the whole their culture of thuggish and longball football remains. Personally I think for Everton Grant Holt is a logical manager to look at next. I fully agree with the comment on not understanding why Villa would be falling over themselves to get Moyes. If the club wants to progress then I dont see Moyes being that man. if the club wants to consolidate itself then i think there is no better man for you. However I would imagine that consolidation isn't really what you're looking for. Alot of people have said that Moyes wont get one of the top jobs in the country at the moment, which i agree with. For my money Moyes should, and i think will, go to Germany next. test himself there then come bac to manage an English CL club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowDoINotLikeThat Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 it would be a joke if we are overlooking Hughes just because of the way he left Fulham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukes Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Hughes was supposedly out of the runing because he resigned so surely that makes it unlikely McCleish will be approached after doing the same thing. It makes no sense. I don't buy the hughes loyalty theory. IMO - whoever our manager is will have to work with\for Faulkner. I am not sure Faulkner would be able to easily impose his will on Mark Hughes - thats why we went for Martinez Wow, you must know Faulkner really well ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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