tonyh29 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, Tegis said: such an underrated movie , some of the best visuals gags and one liners 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted January 29, 2021 Author VT Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Tegis said: The fox cub reaction was exactly like that (up to the last second, anyway!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 On 28/01/2021 at 00:29, useless said: It's probably false, as I can't think why a badger would evolve to have such a function, unless it's some sort of defense left over from the days when they shared the land with predators such as wolves and bears, but even that seems doubtful. I can well believe that they're vicious enough though. Could be because they don't see all that well, if they feel threatened they just fight til they hear a crack and think 'well they're ****' and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted January 29, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2021 5 hours ago, tonyh29 said: such an underrated movie , some of the best visuals gags and one liners What movie is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted January 29, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2021 12 minutes ago, Rds1983 said: What movie is it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddywhack Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 18 minutes ago, Tegis said: Bugger. I was hoping someone was just going to type “top secret” so I could say “please, I won’t tell anyone”. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 In the seventies, eighties, nineties, and even for some of the noughties, there was lots of wonderful pop music, each 'Now That's What I call Music' release was full of timeless classics that have endured the test of time and changing tastes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted January 29, 2021 Author VT Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2021 35 minutes ago, useless said: In the seventies, eighties, nineties, and even for some of the noughties, there was lots of wonderful pop music, each 'Now That's What I call Music' release was full of timeless classics that have endured the test of time and changing tastes. So, what do you wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) Why there hasn't been as much well crafted pop music over the last ten or so years. Or perhaps I should rather say that I wonder why there isn't as much pop music with as broad of an appeal that there used to be. Edited January 29, 2021 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, useless said: Why there hasn't been as much well crafted pop music over the last ten or so years. That’s a good point, there was loads of big pop groups from the 90’s to the late naughties like the Spice Girls, S-Club, Girls Aloud, Westlife, Boyzone, Take That, Atomic Kitten, Sugababes, loads more that I’ve forgotten. Since One Direction nobody has really come in has there? Did X-Factor kill that type of manufactured pop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I think the kind of youngsters that might have been interested in being in bands like The Spice Girls, Take That and so on back in the day are possibly now more interesed in being things like tiktok stars or youtubers. Was surprised to learn recently that a lot of the big youtube stars have big money behind them and are manufactured in exactly the same way, some pop groups are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted January 29, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Genie said: That’s a good point, there was loads of big pop groups from the 90’s to the late naughties like the Spice Girls, S-Club, Girls Aloud, Westlife, Boyzone, Take That, Atomic Kitten, Sugababes, loads more that I’ve forgotten. Since One Direction nobody has really come in has there? Did X-Factor kill that type of manufactured pop? Little mix is the only other one I’m aware of, but of course they’re from X factor themselves. Boy bands/girl bands will come back around again in some form or another eventually. Edit - oh I know of “fifth harmony” (I think?) but that’s only because of the one member’s solo “Havana, Havana....” song. Edited January 29, 2021 by Mark Albrighton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Another thing that I wonder about music and other things that can be manufactured, is that do they exist only when they've been brought into existence, or do they exist beforehand as of yet unrealized, waiting as a sort of latent potential to be brought to life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 @useless there has been well crafted pop music. People labour over the past as they like nostalgia. The last ten years has seen great pop like Black Magic by Little Mix, Baby by Bieber or even Shake it off by Taylor Swift. I could go on as it exists and its out there. Some great pop being created by Dr Luke, Shellback and Max Martin. I am genuinely passionate about modern pop music. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I know there's still some good pop music but it's less prevalent these days, and I'm not really talking in relation to my own personal taste but that of music listeners in general. If you were to go over all the number one records from the eighties and nineties I bet most of the songs that you would come across would be songs that almost everyone knows of, and it wasn't just typical boy bands or girl bands making this type of 'pop music' but also MOR bands like Simply Red, UB40, Texas, The Beautiful South and so on producing pop hits, you don't really get those type of groups anymore and if you do they're aren't producing music that is as well liked by the public. I choose a random 'Now That's What I call Music' compilation and came up with Volume 36, and this was the tracklist... Mama Spice Girls Say What You Want Texas Alone The Bee Gees Don't Marry Her The Beautiful South Don't Speak No Doubt Your Woman White Town Remember Me The Blueboy Virtual Insanity Jamiroquai One And One Robert Miles featuring Maria Nayler Spinning The Wheel George Michael Horny Mark Morrison Natural Peter Andre Love Guaranteed Damage Don't You Love Me Eternal Walk On By Gabrielle I Can Make You Feel Good Kavana Hey Child East 17 A Different Beat Boyzone Anywhere For You Backstreet Boys The Day We Find Love 911 Discotheque U2 Breathe The Prodigy Block Rockin' Beats The Chemical Brothers Nancy Boy Placebo What Do You Want From Me Monaco Everyday Is A Winding Road Sheryl Crow Beetlebum Blur She's A Star James Wide Open Space Mansun Free Me Cast Dark Clouds Space Waterloo Sunset Cathy Dennis Everybody Knows (Except You) The Divine Comedy Indestructible Alishas Attic Shout Ant & Dec You Got The Love The Source featuring Candi Staton Encore Une Fois Sash! Bellissima DJ Quicksilver Flash BBE Passion Amen UK Most of those songs most people know, regardless of whether they like them or not, and the same would true for most volumes in the series around that era in the 90s and going back into the 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted January 29, 2021 Author VT Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, useless said: I know there's still some good pop music but it's less prevalent these days, and I'm not really talking in relation to my own personal taste but that of music listeners in general. If you were to go over all the number one records from the eighties and nineties I bet most of the songs that you would come across would be songs that almost everyone knows of, and it wasn't just typical boy bands or girl bands making this type of 'pop music' but also MOR bands like Simply Red, UB40, Texas, The Beautiful South and so on producing pop hits, you don't really get those type of groups anymore and if you do they're aren't producing music that is as well liked by the public. I choose a random 'Now That's What I call Music' compilation and came up with Volume 36, and this was the tracklist... Mama Spice Girls Say What You Want Texas Alone The Bee Gees Don't Marry Her The Beautiful South Don't Speak No Doubt Your Woman White Town Remember Me The Blueboy Virtual Insanity Jamiroquai One And One Robert Miles featuring Maria Nayler Spinning The Wheel George Michael Horny Mark Morrison Natural Peter Andre Love Guaranteed Damage Don't You Love Me Eternal Walk On By Gabrielle I Can Make You Feel Good Kavana Hey Child East 17 A Different Beat Boyzone Anywhere For You Backstreet Boys The Day We Find Love 911 Discotheque U2 Breathe The Prodigy Block Rockin' Beats The Chemical Brothers Nancy Boy Placebo What Do You Want From Me Monaco Everyday Is A Winding Road Sheryl Crow Beetlebum Blur She's A Star James Wide Open Space Mansun Free Me Cast Dark Clouds Space Waterloo Sunset Cathy Dennis Everybody Knows (Except You) The Divine Comedy Indestructible Alishas Attic Shout Ant & Dec You Got The Love The Source featuring Candi Staton Encore Une Fois Sash! Bellissima DJ Quicksilver Flash BBE Passion Amen UK Most of those songs most people know, regardless of whether they like them or not, and the same would true for most volumes in the series around that era in the 90s and going back into the 80s. I knew two of them (Beautiful South and Cheryl Crowe). And I assume Waterloo Sunset is a cover of the Kinks' song. But then, I'm 66. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 That compilation was released in 1997, I know these Mama Spice Girls Say What You Want Texas Alone The Bee Gees Don't Marry Her The Beautiful South Don't Speak No Doubt Your Woman White Town Virtual Insanity Jamiroquai Breathe The Prodigy Block Rockin' Beats The Chemical Brothers Nancy Boy Placebo Everyday Is A Winding Road Sheryl Crow Beetlebum Blur She's A Star James Wide Open Space Mansun And I suspect I would know some of the others if I heard them, and I imagine that the average person on the street would know most of the songs as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted January 29, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2021 15 minutes ago, mjmooney said: I knew two of them (Beautiful South and Cheryl Crowe). And I assume Waterloo Sunset is a cover of the Kinks' song. But then, I'm 66. I think you’d know “Don’t Speak” by No Doubt (that was a huge, huge hit) and “She’s a star” by James (one of their best, IMO). Perhaps this ties into this discussion, or maybe it’s the point being asked, in 2014, forty years after it was released I think a lot of people knew the song “Waterloo”regardless of their age. What I wonder is will a similar proportion of people know “Shake it off” by Taylor Swift in 2054 when it reaches it’s 40th anniversary? My gut reaction is no, but then in the mid seventies was it obvious that ABBA would still be spoken about half a century later? I know you and some of the others who were around then will be able to answer. My mum gives me the impression that ABBA were considered fairly naff at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Thats fair @useless but put a recent compilation in front a young person and they would say that the tracks are stone cold classics. We look at old compilations and think every single one is a classic. The generation that the latest Nows are aimed at will look at the latest Now in the same way someone older might look at Now 15 etc. As we get older we, myself included to a degree. We become our parents and say call that music, it hasnt even got a tune. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted January 30, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Seat68 said: Thats fair @useless but put a recent compilation in front a young person and they would say that the tracks are stone cold classics. We look at old compilations and think every single one is a classic. The generation that the latest Nows are aimed at will look at the latest Now in the same way someone older might look at Now 15 etc. As we get older we, myself included to a degree. We become our parents and say call that music, it hasnt even got a tune. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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