OutByEaster? Posted November 21, 2023 Moderator Share Posted November 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, ender4 said: Alternatively, as the commission ruled it didn't have any footballing advantage, maybe a 10% fine of the overspend and no point deduction. Strangely, the commission ruled that a fine wouldn't be a suitable punishment because of the wealth of the owners - but seemed to hint that it meant Usmanov not Moshiri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted November 21, 2023 Moderator Share Posted November 21, 2023 I think the punishment is fair, in that it appears to be tailored to the current league table and in real terms shouldn't have any significant effect on Everton's season - to me this looks like an 'agreed' process where both parties have given up things to come to this conclusion - I don't think there's any need for Everton to appeal it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: I think the punishment is fair, in that it appears to be tailored to the current league table and in real terms shouldn't have any significant effect on Everton's season - to me this looks like an 'agreed' process where both parties have given up things to come to this conclusion - I don't think there's any need for Everton to appeal it. But if it's an agreed process, then Everton wouldn't appeal it at all. Their statement seemed shocked by it. Unless they are now having second thoughts based on fans reaction. Also, surely the punishment should be irrelevant of where the team is in the table otherwise its just a fudge. Which it might be anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 It won't have been agreed, but let's get it straight, Everton would have protested literally any punishment as 'disproportionate' (and probably would have appealed no matter what). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 hour ago, ender4 said: Yes if that was the case then 10 points is fair. Purely for the £19m overspend on an accounting technicality and ignoring the issues that @OutByEaster? posted about (which the commission didn't rule on)... 4 points seems fair. Someone posted about the PL discussing 1 point per £5m overspend which is a good standardised metric to deal with it. Alternatively, as the commission ruled it didn't have any footballing advantage, maybe a 10% fine of the overspend and no point deduction. Everton told the PL that a significant part of their attempt to meet FFP regulations was thwarted by not being able to sell valuable players during a pandemic. I find it surprising if the commission ruled there was no footballing advantage to keeping, playing and benefitting from the performance and points gained from those 'valuable' players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Be interesting to see Everton’s response on Sunday. Will be a tough game for a United now, with the crowd up for it. Everton to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Wonder how the PL will show this tifo today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAZZAM Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 I think Everton fans have every right to be angry about this. They dont deny they deserve the punishment, its the fact other teams seem to blatently get away with it for years. And that's also a big problem that the Premier has allowed city to win everything for years instead of nipping all this in the bud years ago. What a mess. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zatman Posted November 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, KAZZAM said: I think Everton fans have every right to be angry about this. They dont deny they deserve the punishment, its the fact other teams seem to blatently get away with it for years. And that's also a big problem that the Premier has allowed city to win everything for years instead of nipping all this in the bud years ago. What a mess. They do deserve the punishment but they are right that others should be punished too 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 On 21/11/2023 at 13:45, ender4 said: @OutByEaster? Alternatively, as the commission ruled it didn't have any footballing advantage, maybe a 10% fine of the overspend and no point deduction. No footballing advantage? How embarrassing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 15 minutes ago, Adman said: No footballing advantage? How embarrassing We all thought Todd Boehly is an idiot, but he must be working on the same defence. "We're **** gash anyway lads, let's move on". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Everton finished 8th in 2018/19, then lost £430,000,000 to currently sit 14th (without points deduction) . Aren't they literally the reason these rules exist to stop morons running their clubs into the ground? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davkaus Posted November 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2023 So **** bored of this "don't punish the fans" line, like a fine is sufficient punishment for breaking financial restrictions that give a team a sporting advantage - even if they don't capitalise on it. The fans have no say in it, but as they experience the benefits so should they suffer the downsides. The people saying this rubbish about Everton will be saying it about Man City too. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Im sorry @Zatman but im not sure why you dont rate the job dyche is doing there. They looked hopeless under lampard. They look far better now and unlucky to be behind vs utd ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoyman Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Mindlessly aggrieved Everton is the most entertaining Everton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 This is hilarious. Every decision given against them and that stupid premier league corrupt banner comes out. How small time, they really are the scouse blose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 3 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Im sorry @Zatman but im not sure why you dont rate the job dyche is doing there. They looked hopeless under lampard. They look far better now and unlucky to be behind vs utd ! Didnt they get smashed 3-0 today No idea what praise he deserves. Bizarre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 One win, one draw, and five defeats, just four points, their lowest ever points tally from the opening seven home games to a league season. Even if you were to give them their ten points back, they would still only have two more points than we had after the same amount of games last season, the kind of form that lead to Gerrard's sacking. The bottom three being as bad as they have been making Everton and a few other teams look like they're doing better than they actually are, but in a normal season, the likes of Everton, Fulham, and Forest, and even Wolves and Palace with their current point totals would be periously close to the bottom three. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 13 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Im sorry @Zatman but im not sure why you dont rate the job dyche is doing there. They looked hopeless under lampard. They look far better now and unlucky to be behind vs utd ! They are 19th mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 9 hours ago, Zatman said: Didnt they get smashed 3-0 today No idea what praise he deserves. Bizarre If everton were more clinical they would have been 4 up by half time. The pen killed them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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