BOF Posted February 14, 2015 Moderator Share Posted February 14, 2015 There is a 3rd alternative. The honest answer that doesn't make you out to be a complete word removed :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I just think a lot of football fans are precious these days and cant deal with honesty Could you imagine uproar tomorrow if Vlaar or Guzan came out and said they want to leave because we are crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 so, what happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted March 4, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted March 4, 2015 Europa League 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Good question. Even Europa League syndrome doesn't explain it. Literally all their standout players from last season (Baines, Jagielka, Coleman, Barry, Barkley, Lukaku etc.) have dramtically dipped. Tactically have become so one-dimensional, almost akin to Lambert's 'new style' in regards to predictability and impotency. I'm astonished, I assumed they would've recovered somewhat by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Their next 6 games are: Newcastle (H) QPR (A) Southampton (H) Swansea (A) Burnley (H) Man Utd (H) Then us at Villa Park. If they can't pick up the 8 points they need from that lot then they really are done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 No idea what's happening there either. I read somewhere they're on less points now than when they survived on the last days in 93/94 and 97/98 although shows you the declining standards of the PL that they're still 6 points clear of the bottom 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 shit manager who couldnt organise a defence is the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 shit manager who couldnt organise a defence is the problem The bigger problem is their ineptitude offensively I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 defensively is the problem and its easy to see the mistakes, he inherited MOyes well built structure but when it was needed tinkering he hadnt a clue. Howard is most overrated keeper in the league adn as solid as they can be Jagielka and Distin got old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 fun fact: Roberto Martinez has more relegations on his CV than Paul Lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 They're the best run club in the whole world though and Kenwright is a genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Yes they won't go down though! I think 34 pts will be enough this season. The bottom 3 need to get more than a point a game to achieve that and that is possible but unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted March 5, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted March 5, 2015 Their next 6 games are: Newcastle (H) QPR (A) Southampton (H) Swansea (A) Burnley (H) Man Utd (H) Then us at Villa Park. If they can't pick up the 8 points they need from that lot then they really are done I think they'll pick up points from those fixtures. Beating QPR and Burnley would be good for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted March 5, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) Their squad isn't getting any younger and with the added games of Europa League, including all the travel, is it any surprise they are struggling in the Premier League a bit? Don't think it's down to Martinez being a poor manager. You could argue the investment on Lukaku could have gone better elsewhere but hindsight is a wonderful thing. Edited March 5, 2015 by PieFacE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 You can easily argue that Martinez is a poor manager. His signings have been terrible and he can't build a defence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted March 5, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) You can easily argue that Martinez is a poor manager. His signings have been terrible and he can't build a defence. He hasn't tried to build a defence yet though at Everton. He's still using what he inherited and what did quite well last season. I think the only defender he's brought in is Alcaraz isn't it? Edited March 5, 2015 by PieFacE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Exactly his problem. He's using what is there rather than not seeing what's in front of him and building one. I wouldn't trust him to anyway because,as before, his signings are shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islingtonclaret Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 They're the best run club in the whole world though and Kenwright is a genius. I don't really know who this is aimed at...this is a line trotted out for Liverpool or Newcastle, but not Everton. I am under the impression that Everton fans are also very tired of Kenwright's lack of cash. Goodison Park is falling apart for a reason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 Is Kenwright still trying to sell the club? I have a feeling we will probably be sold before them. Lerner has come under alot of criticism recently and rightly so but I do think he is actively trying to sell the club despite what is said. I don't get the feeling Kenwright is. Kenwright will probably look for outside investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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