mikeyp102 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Probably as bad as Wigan ever were defensively atm. When will they ship 9? When Martinez took over I thought he would make the defence worse. Last season. I was made to eat my words but it certainly looks that it has got worse this yr. Be interesting to see if he can rebuild a defence once they all start to age. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I don't know what to make of Everton, but I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have expected to be 17th after six games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 They certainly pissed a lot of money up the wall on Lukaku, not turning out too well is it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Early days yet but I don't think they will challenging for 4th spot this season. Barry, Piennar, Hibbert, all getting a bit old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Early days yet but I don't think they will challenging for 4th spot this season. Barry, Piennar, Hibbert, all getting a bit old. They'll struggle to get top half to be honest. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 They miss Barkley a lot. Their midfield is too one paced and not dynamic enough without him, They were also missing Coleman, Mirallas and McCarthy who are three important players and still pushed Man. United hard at the end. If we're playing the injury card, they certainly can. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisagg75 Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 think europe will take it's toll as well.don't think lukaku will bag that many either and their defence-or lack of- will cost them as i don't see them as a free scoring team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisagg75 Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I don't know what to make of Everton, but I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have expected to be 17th after six games. do you think he'll start coming under pressure or is the media love in with him mean he'll be safe from them having a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Early days. They always had terrible starts under Moyes but rose to be 6th/7th at the end of the season. There's still a lot of quality in that Everton team, they aren't far away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 They miss Barkley a lot. Their midfield is too one paced and not dynamic enough without him, They were also missing Coleman, Mirallas and McCarthy who are three important players and still pushed Man. United hard at the end. If we're playing the injury card, they certainly can. Consistancy in standards doesn't seem to apply for many Villa fans when it comes to judging other teams though I have found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 think europe will take it's toll as well.don't think lukaku will bag that many either and their defence-or lack of- will cost them as i don't see them as a free scoring team. I think Europe will be a huge distraction. Unlike most manager's who rotate in Europe, I get the impression Martinez will prioritise cup competition and always field his best side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 still pretty sure Everton will finish top 7. Might slip to 8th if Southampton( or ourselves! ) have a really good season, but they've had a tough start with fixtures like us and have lost a key player to injury. Would be amazed if they were lower than 8th come the season's end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Yes I think the top 7 will finish in this order myself Chelsea Man City Arsenal Man U Liverpool Spurs Everton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Yeah, Everton will be fine. Obviously they were never going to match last season's position and points tally but they'll still comfortably make the top half at least. They've not even been that bad in terms of performances. Four of the seven games have been against Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and United respectably. Palace was the only real terrible result. They look better defensively since Stones has partnered Jagielka at centre-back again also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I'd back Everton to finish ahead of Spurs. Spurs are just so insipid at the moment. I know they're defensively sound but I just don't see them scoring enough goals to get enough wins whereas I expect Everton to improve in both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted October 5, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted October 5, 2014 They miss Barkley a lot. Their midfield is too one paced and not dynamic enough without him, They were also missing Coleman, Mirallas and McCarthy who are three important players and still pushed Man. United hard at the end. If we're playing the injury card, they certainly can. This a million times. Think some are being quite short sighted TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted October 5, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted October 5, 2014 Lukaku hasn't been the same since he shaved his head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 They miss Barkley a lot. Their midfield is too one paced and not dynamic enough without him, They were also missing Coleman, Mirallas and McCarthy who are three important players and still pushed Man. United hard at the end. If we're playing the injury card, they certainly can. Consistancy in standards doesn't seem to apply for many Villa fans when it comes to judging other teams though I have found. Oh god yeah. Benteke or Vlaar out = impossible to get results. McCarthy, Barkley, Miralles and Coleman all out at the same time = god Everton are rubbish, Martinez out lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B94villa Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Lukaku hasn't been the same since he shaved his head. Like a natty Samson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 They miss Barkley a lot. Their midfield is too one paced and not dynamic enough without him, They were also missing Coleman, Mirallas and McCarthy who are three important players and still pushed Man. United hard at the end. If we're playing the injury card, they certainly can. Consistancy in standards doesn't seem to apply for many Villa fans when it comes to judging other teams though I have found. Oh god yeah. Benteke or Vlaar out = impossible to get results. McCarthy, Barkley, Miralles and Coleman all out at the same time = god Everton are rubbish, Martinez out lol. Nah it's not even that. Martinez has never been able to build a defense. His good guy persona means his deficiencies get masked. They've spent a tonne of money on what really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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