The Arab Spring and "the War on Terror"

[ml1dch]

22 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said:

Don’t worry, the UK is calling parliament back next week, that’ll sort it all out.

I expect they are waiting until the Foreign Secretary has managed to locate Afghanistan on his Toys R Us globe. 

[tonyh29]

 

On 13/08/2021 at 15:09, maqroll said:

Afghanistan is so far away from Arab countries. Wrong thread,  IMO!

 

On 13/08/2021 at 16:07, OutByEaster? said:

It does border Iran. Is that far away?

 

Iran is Persian not Arab and wouldn’t belong in this thread either  

 

[Genie]

55 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said:

Don’t worry, the UK is calling parliament back next week, that’ll sort it all out.

Uk parliament don’t even have a credible plan for shops to not run out of Pringles.

[chrisp65]

1 hour ago, Genie said:

Is it not better to discuss Afghanistan in its own topic, especially as it’s not an Arab country?

 

 

5 minutes ago, tonyh29 said:

 

 

Iran is Persian not Arab and wouldn’t belong in this thread either  

 

 

I suspect some VT mods are deeply involved in UK Foreign Policy.

We’ve drawn a line on a map and the world will have to fall in line.

[sne]

Old article (2018) but still interesting.

It's a loooong read.

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How the heroin trade explains the US-UK failure in Afghanistan

After fighting the longest war in its history, the US stands at the brink of defeat in Afghanistan. How could this be possible? How could the world’s sole superpower have battled continuously for more than 16 years – deploying more than 100,000 troops at the conflict’s peak, sacrificing the lives of nearly 2,300 soldiers, spending more than $1tn (£740bn) on its military operations, lavishing a record $100bn more on “nation-building”, helping fund and train an army of 350,000 Afghan allies – and still not be able to pacify one of the world’s most impoverished nations? So dismal is the prospect of stability in Afghanistan that, in 2016, the Obama White House cancelled a planned withdrawal of its forces, ordering more than 8,000 troops to remain in the country indefinitely...

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/jan/09/how-the-heroin-trade-explains-the-us-uk-failure-in-afghanistan

[Xela]

1 hour ago, bannedfromHandV said:

Don’t worry, the UK is calling parliament back next week, that’ll sort it all out.

An 'oven ready' solution no doubt. 

[Davkaus]

22 minutes ago, Genie said:

Uk parliament don’t even have a credible plan for shops to not run out of Pringles.

We should probably outsource it to the Taliban, they seem to be quite effective logistically. 

[bannedfromHandV]

27 minutes ago, Xela said:

An 'oven ready' solution no doubt. 

Don’t know about oven ready but you can guarantee it will be half baked.

By the time they reconvene, the entire country will be lost to the taliban, what exactly are they going to be discussing?

Like everything else out inept excuse for a government does, it’ll be purely superficial.

[chrisp65]

8 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said:

Don’t know about oven ready but you can guarantee it will be half baked.

By the time they reconvene, the entire country will be lost to the taliban, what exactly are they going to be discussing?

Like everything else out inept excuse for a government does, it’ll be purely superficial.

Probably going to be discussing the impact on illegal immigration.

A second round of thinking on whether those drowning nets that Patel wanted were really such a bad idea.

 

[Davkaus]

Just now, chrisp65 said:

Probably going to be discussing the impact on illegal immigration.

A second round of thinking on whether those drowning nets that Patel wanted were really such a bad idea.

 

Pretty pessimistic, I reckon we might try and get a trade agreement  

[chrisp65]

Just now, Davkaus said:

Pretty pessimistic, I reckon we might try and get a trade agreement  

We need a hand, they’re going to have plenty of spares….

[desensitized43]

2 minutes ago, Davkaus said:

Pretty pessimistic, I reckon we might try and get a trade agreement  

I’ve always said this country could do with more heroin.

[chrisp65]

President Ghani gone, thoughts and prayers for those that didn’t join him on the plane.

[OutByEaster?]

I think the only thing that'll be discussed in parliaments in the UK and US is gas and whether we have secure control of its supply and who it's being sold to.

As long as the nutters don't interfere with that, a few heads on the ground and the odd burned tyre don't really make a ripple in the countries where the banks live.

 

 

[chrisp65]

Hopefully lessons will be learned.

[HanoiVillan]

1 hour ago, chrisp65 said:

Probably going to be discussing the impact on illegal immigration.

A second round of thinking on whether those drowning nets that Patel wanted were really such a bad idea.

Probably, yes, and we're probably going to hear an awful lot of very serious moral condemnations of leaving Afghanistan from members who want to accept 0 additional refugees as a consequence.

That hypocrisy will be an accurate reflection of the state of British political elite thinking, at any rate.

Also, given that military mastermind Sir Keir Starmer QC was busy sounding off about how we shouldn't be withdrawing at all just yesterday, he'll doubtless attempt to backseat drive the war effort for a few cheap points, like the worthless sack of shit that he is.

[sne]

This aged well.

 

[chrisp65]

…and when was it that US military intelligence said they thought the Taliban could be outside Kabul in 90 days time? Tuesday wasn’t it?

[Big Salad]

Just now, chrisp65 said:

…and when was it that US military intelligence said they thought the Taliban could be outside Kabul in 90 days time? Tuesday wasn’t it?

Is that supposed to be an oxymoron?

[StefanAVFC]

6 hours ago, chrisp65 said:

Probably going to be discussing the impact on illegal immigration.

 

Said in jest but sadly with truth