Swerbs Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 He only wanted to play for Houllier I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 How did he get a work permit in the first place if he could not speak English? He got a one-year permit that can be granted to people who can't speak English on the expectation they will learn the basic language skills needed and get the necessary qualification within 12 months. Seems J2M never bothered so that might be seen as a measure of how interested he was in playing for Villa ever. Just to put it in context, this langauge test has been passed by C Tevez who, it was revealed recently, couldn't understand speeding penalty notices when they were sent to him and so didn't pay and got banned from driving, So we are not talking the most difficult test in the world here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 21, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted March 21, 2013 Gabby's on his 8th re-sit though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 did he want to only come here with the intention of money grabbing and running back to france? Quite obviously not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted March 21, 2013 Author Share Posted March 21, 2013 Gabby's on his 8th re-sit though. Haha brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danwichmann Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 How did he get a work permit in the first place if he could not speak English? He got a one-year permit that can be granted to people who can't speak English on the expectation they will learn the basic language skills needed and get the necessary qualification within 12 months. Seems J2M never bothered so that might be seen as a measure of how interested he was in playing for Villa ever. Just to put it in context, this langauge test has been passed by C Tevez who, it was revealed recently, couldn't understand speeding penalty notices when they were sent to him and so didn't pay and got banned from driving, So we are not talking the most difficult test in the world here. I don't think it's fair to assume J2M never put the effort it, although it may well be the case. Languages are difficult to learn and some people just struggle with even the very basics, however motivated they might be. I wonder how many Villatalkers would struggle to pass a similar test for a language that was previously unfamiliar to them. I would imagine a significant number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meath_Villan Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 **** it I blame Martin O'Neill !!!!! (even tho he had nothing to do with it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 How did he get a work permit in the first place if he could not speak English? He got a one-year permit that can be granted to people who can't speak English on the expectation they will learn the basic language skills needed and get the necessary qualification within 12 months. Seems J2M never bothered so that might be seen as a measure of how interested he was in playing for Villa ever. Just to put it in context, this langauge test has been passed by C Tevez who, it was revealed recently, couldn't understand speeding penalty notices when they were sent to him and so didn't pay and got banned from driving, So we are not talking the most difficult test in the world here. I don't think it's fair to assume J2M never put the effort it, although it may well be the case. Languages are difficult to learn and some people just struggle with even the very basics, however motivated they might be. I wonder how many Villatalkers would struggle to pass a similar test for a language that was previously unfamiliar to them. I would imagine a significant number. I'm sure we would all be fluent if it meant getting paid £40k a week plus probably given free lessons with the best language teachers going on a one-to-one basis. I never really understood why he didn't just get a French passport having been over there for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 How long did it take Tevez to learn the language? on Makoun, In reality he was only at the club I'd say for about 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 How long did it take Tevez to learn the language? on Makoun, In reality he was only at the club I'd say for about 6 months. you don't need to learn the language to pass that test though, it's the most absolute basic stuff. the guy just couldn't be arsed basically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 You don't really know that, I remember him coming back for pre-season and up for it, but then our manager at the time didn't think he was good enough so sent him on loan to another club and then brings in Jenas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Good job we stopped over paying players who contribute nothing once MoN left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danwichmann Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 How did he get a work permit in the first place if he could not speak English? He got a one-year permit that can be granted to people who can't speak English on the expectation they will learn the basic language skills needed and get the necessary qualification within 12 months. Seems J2M never bothered so that might be seen as a measure of how interested he was in playing for Villa ever. Just to put it in context, this langauge test has been passed by C Tevez who, it was revealed recently, couldn't understand speeding penalty notices when they were sent to him and so didn't pay and got banned from driving, So we are not talking the most difficult test in the world here. I don't think it's fair to assume J2M never put the effort it, although it may well be the case. Languages are difficult to learn and some people just struggle with even the very basics, however motivated they might be. I wonder how many Villatalkers would struggle to pass a similar test for a language that was previously unfamiliar to them. I would imagine a significant number. I'm sure we would all be fluent if it meant getting paid £40k a week plus probably given free lessons with the best language teachers going on a one-to-one basis. I never really understood why he didn't just get a French passport having been over there for so long. As I said, motivation isn't always enough, however good your teachers. Some people just can't get the hang of it. (That doesn't mean J2M was one of those people, it's at least as likely he was just lazy, but we can't know that.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Gabby's on his 8th re-sit though. He keeps failing cus he uses crayon to do the test instead of a biro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanvilla_1994 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Joining Rennes permanently in the summer. Good riddance, awful signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Of all the shite weve signed before, this one really anoys me, cus i thought he would of been a handy player for us. Thanks for the jumper jean. Would he get in a villa worst 11? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 nah was worst players. was talent there as evident in that United game but other circumstances got in the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 (edited) Joining Rennes permanently in the summer. Good riddance, awful signing. any confirmation or detail of this? are we getting a transfer fee for him? Edited March 30, 2013 by ender4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~3127194,00.html There is the confirmation, fee is undisclosed and no doubt we've made a loss, but at least the Makoun saga has ended now. Good luck to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 What about that Manchester United performance? That was worth the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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