Mr_Dogg Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 I love how everyone has all these opinions made based on a dozen games played in a poor to average team in a new league. Are you new to VT ? I should stop being surprised I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 I love how everyone has all these opinions made based on a dozen games played in a poor to average team in a new league. Are you new to VT ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 J2M was definitely Houllier's man and I always got the impression he only agreed to join us because Houllier was here. Consequently I think a lot of his desire to play for us left with Houllier. Not quite to the point where he would refuse, but I think the next man had his work cut out to motivate him fully. He had his ups and down in a Villa shirt but I think he would be a square peg in a round hole if he was to come back now. He's not an Ireland or a Bannan, he's a deeper lying player than that and he's far more suited to a team with a passing style. We're not that. It's just not a good fit. Much like Berson was when he was here. Two good players we just couldn't utilise properly. Completely agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 But he couldn't even get a game under GED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted February 21, 2012 Moderator Share Posted February 21, 2012 Well he was at the club for less than half a season, in which time he played 7 games. So while he wasn't an ever-present, it's not true to say he couldn't get a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Yeah but after he gave that stupid penalty away and then the red card, he really made it hard for himself to be selected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted February 21, 2012 Moderator Share Posted February 21, 2012 They would be the 'downs' I referred to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I like Makoun. I hope he stays and is used by McLeish, but it doesn't look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sani Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Yeah but after he gave that stupid penalty away and then the red card, he really made it hard for himself to be selected How is it Makouns fault that the player dived and cheated to get that penalty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildwood Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Yeah but after he gave that stupid penalty away and then the red card, he really made it hard for himself to be selected How is it Makouns fault that the player dived and cheated to get that penalty? Salifou would have known not to go near the diving player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulver Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Yeah but after he gave that stupid penalty away and then the red card, he really made it hard for himself to be selected How is it Makouns fault that the player dived and cheated to get that penalty? Good question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Yeah but after he gave that stupid penalty away and then the red card, he really made it hard for himself to be selected How is it Makouns fault that the player dived and cheated to get that penalty? Salifou would have known not to go near the diving player. ... and that's why Salifou is now playing football.... (I don't know where) I'd rather my players attempt to challenge a player that is known for diving, rather than just let them pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cule4life Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 I think he's a prime reason why people shouldn't rave about foreigners coming to Villa as he was an epic failure and a waste of money. Everyone rave's about foreigners half the time i think it's just the name and people go nuts for it Admittedly in areas like Spain you have good players and parts of South America the odd gem is revealed. However i don't think our scouts actually go very far out of VP so we can forget that. Good god under MON the scouts merely got paid to sit on there fat asses i actually cant remember the last i heard the scouts were out and about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 I think he's a prime reason why people shouldn't rave about foreigners coming to Villa as he was an epic failure and a waste of money. Everyone rave's about foreigners half the time i think it's just the name and people go nuts for it Admittedly in areas like Spain you have good players and parts of South America the odd gem is revealed. However i don't think our scouts actually go very far out of VP so we can forget that. Good god under MON the scouts merely got paid to sit on there fat asses i actually cant remember the last i heard the scouts were out and about. But what is the solution then? Our academy isn't producing good enough players and the few brittish players that actually are descent are far to expensive for us. That leaves us with the like's of Hutton, Heskey, Knight, Routledge, Sidwell, Maloney... *Hint (The obvious answer is better scouting abroad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sani Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 I think he's a prime reason why people shouldn't rave about foreigners coming to Villa as he was an epic failure and a waste of money. Everyone rave's about foreigners half the time i think it's just the name and people go nuts for it Admittedly in areas like Spain you have good players and parts of South America the odd gem is revealed. However i don't think our scouts actually go very far out of VP so we can forget that. Good god under MON the scouts merely got paid to sit on there fat asses i actually cant remember the last i heard the scouts were out and about. How was he an epic failure? Came in january when we were awful, played some good matches and some not so good ones. How many january transfers are epic WINS throughout history exactly? Always takes time, he didnt get it as he was sent away on loan. Bosko Balaban was an epic failure here but talk about overreacting......some ppl on here never seem to think before they write or just have the worst memory in history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Epic failure?! Please tell me why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu_The_Villan Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 He is still the best CM we have on our books. The fact that he now plays for somebody else tells ypou everything you need to know about whats wrong with the Villa. Poor, poor descisions made at every turn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloBarnesi Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 He is still the best CM we have on our books. The fact that he now plays for somebody else tells ypou everything you need to know about whats wrong with the Villa. Poor, poor descisions made at every turn Based on what??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu_The_Villan Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 He is still the best CM we have on our books. The fact that he now plays for somebody else tells ypou everything you need to know about whats wrong with the Villa. Poor, poor descisions made at every turn Based on what??? Hes better than Petrov, better than Clarke, better than Herd, better than Ireland. Who else is there? Oh yeah...Jenas, but that one goes without saying really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelle Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 He is still the best CM we have on our books. The fact that he now plays for somebody else tells ypou everything you need to know about whats wrong with the Villa. Poor, poor descisions made at every turn Based on what??? Hes better than Petrov, better than Clarke, better than Herd, better than Ireland. Who else is there? Oh yeah...Jenas, but that one goes without saying really. Again, based on what? He played less than 10 games for us, IIRC, and he did well in a few of them, worse in a few. And now he's playing in a league that is far away from the PL standard. I'm not saying he's not good enough, I'm just saying that the judge is pretty much still out on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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