DaveAV1 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 15 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: I'm suprised he's not told us that Jack can play anywhere across the midfield.. / back four Just thought I’d fill in the gap you missed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr_Pangloss Posted September 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 30, 2018 Grealish excelled last season in a central role, so why change that? Why is the club signing players like El Ghazi and Bolassie, who can play in that left position, only to move Grealish out there because it's his 'best position'? The level of mismanagement going on is shocking. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Grealish excelled last season in a central role, so why change that? Why is the club signing players like El Ghazi and Bolassie, who can play in that left position, only to move Grealish out there because it's his 'best position'? The level of mismanagement going on is shocking. It is indeed. It is so patently bonkers that my only hope/ explanation is the signings are for someone else rather than Bruce. Edited September 30, 2018 by terrytini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Grealish excelled last season in a central role, so why change that? Why is the club signing players like El Ghazi and Bolassie, who can play in that left position, only to move Grealish out there because it's his 'best position'? The level of mismanagement going on is shocking. I think the issue is that Bruce is trying to shoehorn Kodjia into the side, for 2 reasons. i) Bruces pragmatic style has always relied on "someone doing something special". Whilst it doesn't happen very often, i think Bruce sees Kodjia as that man. When Kodjia is fit, he plays. ii) I think Bruce is so lost with regards to how to dig himself out of a hole that he has gone against everything he believes and thinks playing 2 up top will appease the fans and shake off his negative reputation. What it does mean is that Jack gets pushed wide and the guys he actually signed to play on the wing sit on the bench. It's a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 24 minutes ago, terrytini said: It is indeed. It is so patently bonkers that my only hope/ explanation is the signings are for someone else rather than Bruce. I'm not sure about this mate. Both wingers were signed before CP was appointed, and i would hope that the new owners aren't picking players. If the assumption is that Bruces replacement has already been identified and is pulling the strings from afar, why hasn't he already been appointed? It's more likely that Bruce has decided that he wants to play 2 up top, which means Jack getting pushed all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 43 minutes ago, av1 said: I'm not sure about this mate. Both wingers were signed before CP was appointed, and i would hope that the new owners aren't picking players. If the assumption is that Bruces replacement has already been identified and is pulling the strings from afar, why hasn't he already been appointed? It's more likely that Bruce has decided that he wants to play 2 up top, which means Jack getting pushed all over the place. I know. Ive found a straw and I’m going to clutch it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, av1 said: I think the issue is that Bruce is trying to shoehorn Kodjia into the side, for 2 reasons. i) Bruces pragmatic style has always relied on "someone doing something special". Whilst it doesn't happen very often, i think Bruce sees Kodjia as that man. When Kodjia is fit, he plays. ii) I think Bruce is so lost with regards to how to dig himself out of a hole that he has gone against everything he believes and thinks playing 2 up top will appease the fans and shake off his negative reputation. What it does mean is that Jack gets pushed wide and the guys he actually signed to play on the wing sit on the bench. It's a mess. I think you have a point....He is caught between a rock and a hard place....but he has allowed himself to drift in to that, slight mitigation for the summer when he had 2 centre backs lined up.....hope they would have been better than the 2 'keepers.....else we have dodged a couple of bullets. Quite frankly, I am not sure either of what the correct line -up should be......too many variants floating around in my head. Right now, if you change it its wrong, if you stick with it its wrong.......He doesn't know if to stick of twist and neither do I. I think the centre halves and GK are affecting the whole rhythm of the team its being affected by those positions....its drained the confidence. At the moment we have too many big reputations not doing it.......Chester,Grealish, Adomah and Kodjia. The problem is if we leave them out, we are denying ourselves the chance of them producing something, with no obvious choice to come in to replace them. In the current situation, I am not sure what to suggest for the best......FWIW. Edited September 30, 2018 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 5 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Grealish excelled last season in a central role, so why change that? Why is the club signing players like El Ghazi and Bolassie, who can play in that left position, only to move Grealish out there because it's his 'best position'? The level of mismanagement going on is shocking. If he can't get a tune.....he picks up another instrument. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Has a £30m buy out clause if we are not promoted according to the esteemed publication that is The Daily Mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, sne said: Has a £30m buy out clause if we are not promoted according to the esteemed publication that is The Daily Mirror. who? the owner. just kidding. but is there any incentive to play? Edited September 30, 2018 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, TRO said: In the current situation, I am not sure what to suggest for the best......FWIW. Changing the manager would be a good starting point. Edited September 30, 2018 by vreitti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 13 minutes ago, vreitti said: Changing the manager would be a good starting point. Who would you get in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 7 hours ago, TRO said: who? the owner. just kidding. but is there any incentive to play? He’s playing for his boyhood club, all his family are Villa, as Bruce said no-one cares more than Jack Grealish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 14 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Grealish excelled last season in a central role, so why change that? Why is the club signing players like El Ghazi and Bolassie, who can play in that left position, only to move Grealish out there because it's his 'best position'? The level of mismanagement going on is shocking. It’s where he played in our youth teams and when he first came in to our first team, it’s not a position he is unfamiliar with. He should be able to adapt to what the manager asks him to do, no questions asked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifamad Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 He has been garbage this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, fifamad said: He has been garbage this season. Agreed but we are only a month in to the season, plenty of time to turn it around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OutByEaster? Posted September 30, 2018 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted September 30, 2018 He's been far from garbage. I think sometimes we judge Jack differently to our other players - he's been our best player so far this season without being at his best. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 11 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: He's been far from garbage. I think sometimes we judge Jack differently to our other players - he's been our best player so far this season without being at his best. Well phrased, this is what I meant to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 9 hours ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Who would you get in? Honestly anyone but Bruce, or any of his backroom staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 10 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: He's been far from garbage. I think sometimes we judge Jack differently to our other players - he's been our best player so far this season without being at his best. Maybe, but he's been a shadow of himself when compared with last season, it's indicative of the whole team though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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