El Zen Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 9 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Just look at the reception for Hourihane. Everyone wishing him well and saying how great he's been etc etc It's because he's not good enough. I like the guy but he's leaving because we want to get rid. Anyone who is actually good enough to be signed by a great team gets pelters. It's very strange behaviour. It really isn’t. I mean, the opposite would be a lot stranger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 I'm out in Hungary at the moment and its all about him on their TV news channels, sports sections .. he's definitely in that "Superstar" level over here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 31, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted August 31, 2021 3 hours ago, El Zen said: It really isn’t. I mean, the opposite would be a lot stranger. The good wishes for Hourihane aren't strange. The pelters for Grealish are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wainy316 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, tonyh29 said: I'm out in Hungary at the moment and its all about him on their TV news channels, sports sections .. he's definitely in that "Superstar" level over here Ah man, we really needed just one year out of him to milk the brand and have our club's profile enlarged by association. He may still be hear if Messi/Barca had announced their separation just two days earlier. Edited September 1, 2021 by Wainy316 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubbs Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Problem we have now is there's nobody close to him in our current squad. We'd have to buy a high profile player to boost the clubs image worldwide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 10 hours ago, Stevo985 said: The good wishes for Hourihane aren't strange. The pelters for Grealish are. Well, you made the comparison, and your point seemed to be that it is strange that Villa fans wish Conor well when he wasn’t good enough for us, while at the same time express resentment towards Jack when he was f***ing brilliant for us. I don’t understand how you find that strange. I think it’s the most natural, human emotional response to the situation. People are disappointed, hurt by Jack’s decision. He dumped us, to use a worn but analogy. We kind of dumped Conor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 1, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted September 1, 2021 14 minutes ago, El Zen said: Well, you made the comparison, and your point seemed to be that it is strange that Villa fans wish Conor well when he wasn’t good enough for us, while at the same time express resentment towards Jack when he was f***ing brilliant for us. I don’t understand how you find that strange. I think it’s the most natural, human emotional response to the situation. People are disappointed, hurt by Jack’s decision. He dumped us, to use a worn but analogy. We kind of dumped Conor. I don't find it strange that we're upset he left. I'm upset. I've never been more gutted about a player leaving than I am about Jack. What I don't understand is people criticising him for it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 It's the manner he's gone about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 15 minutes ago, Mantis said: It's the manner he's gone about it. 'The way he went about it' being a couple of standard issue PR bits when he signed a contract 12 months ago, before another brilliant season when he broke into the England squad, or something else? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I don't find it strange that we're upset he left. I'm upset. I've never been more gutted about a player leaving than I am about Jack. What I don't understand is people criticising him for it I think it’s only natural that people express resentment towards people who have upset them. It may not be rational or even reasonable, but it certainly isn’t strange either. It’s 100 per cent pathos, 0 per cent logos. But that’s football, and that’s how I want my football experience to be. As childish as it sounds, Jack Grealish hurt my feelings. I don’t want to like him anymore. I really rather want to dislike him. I want to look for flaws, find fault, blame him, whatever. Which I think is probably unreasonable, but also very human and normal and okay. In a backwards way, it’s the most honest compliment I can give the guy. I hate him because I f***ing adored him. Edited September 1, 2021 by El Zen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 35 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: 'The way he went about it' being a couple of standard issue PR bits when he signed a contract 12 months ago, before another brilliant season when he broke into the England squad, or something else? I do think when he left then his PR team **** up and thats what led to the backlash. His leaving statement for example was so poorly written that left a bad taste with some people especially when players who got less fanfare like Conor, Taylor and I think Elmo as well wrote meaningful leaving statements I do think it will blow over eventually 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 You should go easier on the kid. Guy was desperate for CL football and playing with players on his wavelength. He was never gonna achieve that at Villa. Sadly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Genie Posted September 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2021 He gave everything for this club and stuck around longer than he needed to as he was clearly on a different level. Eventually an offer beyond his wildest dreams came along and it was too good to turn down. Can’t believe people are upset about the quality of the wording in his farewell thank you letter. It’s very odd behaviour. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 1, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted September 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Mantis said: It's the manner he's gone about it. Can you elaborate? I mean he's given us longer than most players of his ability would have, he's captained us to promotion, played for us for 2 seasons after that and been one of the best players in the league, broke into the england squad and left for a record fee to one of the best teams in europe. How exactly was he meant to go about it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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villalad21 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 He isn't wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: Well if he thought that then he's deluded as neither Phillips or Rice played at that level. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 5 hours ago, dubbs said: Problem we have now is there's nobody close to him in our current squad. We'd have to buy a high profile player to boost the clubs image worldwide. I've a feeling Bailey will upstage Grealish overtime and be just as good for us once he kicks in full throttle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, PaulC said: Well if he thought that then he's deluded as neither Phillips or Rice played at that level. Not really lots of options in those positions Just so happens that England is stacked in Jack's position 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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