Recircle Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, DCJonah said: I have to be honest, I don't really get the idea of him being a super sub. He came on against Scotland and did nothing. And whilst he played his part, he wasn't heavily involved when he came on last night. Against the Czech we played our best attacking football of the tournament with him starting, where he also got an assist and we won the game. Pressure was off a bit for the Czech game; England had already qualified for the next stage by then, and the team could play more expansively. From what I've seen, Shaw and Kane notably tend to look for Grealish and bring him into play, but he's not going to be the orchestrator for England like he is for Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 25 minutes ago, DCJonah said: I have to be honest, I don't really get the idea of him being a super sub. He came on against Scotland and did nothing. And whilst he played his part, he wasn't heavily involved when he came on last night. Against the Czech we played our best attacking football of the tournament with him starting, where he also got an assist and we won the game. What other country would play such a talent as a super sub ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, deck said: Pressure was off a bit for the Czech game; England had already qualified for the next stage by then, and the team could play more expansively. From what I've seen, Shaw and Kane notably tend to look for Grealish and bring him into play, but he's not going to be the orchestrator for England like he is for Villa. But that's the issue. He should and could be the orchestrator for England. Edited June 30, 2021 by sheepyvillian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, deck said: Pressure was off a bit for the Czech game; England had already qualified for the next stage by then, and the team could play more expansively. From what I've seen, Shaw and Kane notably tend to look for Grealish and bring him into play, but he's not going to be the orchestrator for England like he is for Villa. Why? He's the best player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Just now, Tom13 said: Loads of people playing down Jack's role in the first goal just because it was a 'five yard ball'. Let me tell you, many of our other players would have messed that move up. First of all he spots the pass, and he's the master of weighting a pass. Puts it perfectly for Shaw to not have to break stride to play it first time. Seems simple but I'd love to see the outcome should Sterling for example have been in that position. And that's not having a pop at Sterling, he played well yesterday. I think you are bang on....His weighted passes are on another planet. They all knew Jacks involvement in those goals......I think a few of his team mates are a bit resentful of Jacks popularity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 26 minutes ago, sidcow said: DCM seems to have entered the language recently. I would say that's probably a sweeper? I don't think a defensive Centre midfielder is a sweeper, wrong side of the center back for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) A DCM could also be described as a DLP which in turn could be a DLCM. Equally a CAM when employed could be a double pivoting LAM or indeed a RAM or even CLM or CRM if the single pivot was used to decoy the double or triple pivot. If we were to use a DDFT instead of the more traditional DFT I think that would release the CBP earlier and allow more fluidity for the ROF and/or LOF. Thoughts? Edited June 30, 2021 by DaveAV1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Just now, DaveAV1 said: A DCM could also be described as a DLP which in turn could be a DLCM. Equally an CAM when employed could be a double pivoting LAM or indeed a RAM or even CLM or CRM if the single pivot was used to decoy the double or triple pivot. If we were to use a DDFT instead of the more traditional DFT I think that would release the CBP earlier and allow more fluidity for the ROF and/or LOF. Thoughts? My Brain Hurts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 minute ago, DaveAV1 said: A DCM could also be described as a DLP which in turn could be a DLCM. Equally an CAM when employed could be a double pivoting LAM or indeed a RAM or even CLM or CRM if the single pivot was used to decoy the double or triple pivot. If we were to use a DDFT instead of the more traditional DFT I think that would release the CBP earlier and allow more fluidity for the ROF and/or LOF. Thoughts? I blame FM and FIFA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loxstock92 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: A DCM could also be described as a DLP which in turn could be a DLCM. Equally an CAM when employed could be a double pivoting LAM or indeed a RAM or even CLM or CRM if the single pivot was used to decoy the double or triple pivot. If we were to use a DDFT instead of the more traditional DFT I think that would release the CBP earlier and allow more fluidity for the ROF and/or LOF. Thoughts? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Just now, Loxstock92 said: Yes Agreed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post the_eristic Posted June 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Loads of people playing down Jack's role in the first goal just because it was a 'five yard ball'. Let me tell you, many of our other players would have messed that move up. First of all he spots the pass, and he's the master of weighting a pass. Puts it perfectly for Shaw to not have to break stride to play it first time. Seems simple but I'd love to see the outcome should Sterling for example have been in that position. And that's not having a pop at Sterling, he played well yesterday. There's even more to it than that! Go back a few passes before Sterling first gets the ball, Maguire has it at a literal standstill near the center circle clearly looking for a forward option, but everyone is just standing around either marked or blocked off. Suddenly, Jack comes running back from the attacking third right between two Germans and Maguire fizzes it to him, he starts to control it to turn but slips as a German player begins to pressure him from behind, but he sees the one that had been blocking off Rice is coming towards him too, so he toe pokes the ball to Rice, who goes to Phillips, who then finds Sterling. Jack turns and runs from the center circle to the box. He enables the entire move by showing for the ball in a densely packed midfield when everyone else is static and drawing defenders towards him to make space for the passes, then effectively starts the sequence by getting the ball to Rice at the last second. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: A DCM could also be described as a DLP which in turn could be a DLCM. Equally an CAM when employed could be a double pivoting LAM or indeed a RAM or even CLM or CRM if the single pivot was used to decoy the double or triple pivot. If we were to use a DDFT instead of the more traditional DFT I think that would release the CBP earlier and allow more fluidity for the ROF and/or LOF. Thoughts? Your pivoting me off now....what's a DDFT Dave? Sounds like a wrestling move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 40 minutes ago, DCJonah said: And whilst he played his part, he wasn't heavily involved when he came on last night. But ‘his part’ was setting up both goals! I know the first was assist to an assist but that would not have been the pass with any other player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recircle Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Why? He's the best player. I didn't mean he wouldn't orchestrate when he gets the chance, but he probably won't become the sort of conduit that he is for Villa. He's just among better players with England, and international tournament knock-out football is cagey, high-stakes stuff; he's bound to drift in and out more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, avfc1982am said: Your pivoting me off now....what's a DDFT Dave? Sounds like a wrestling move. It’s a Deep Defensive Forward Thrust. But I’m just taking the MIK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: A DCM could also be described as a DLP which in turn could be a DLCM. Equally a CAM when employed could be a double pivoting LAM or indeed a RAM or even CLM or CRM if the single pivot was used to decoy the double or triple pivot. If we were to use a DDFT instead of the more traditional DFT I think that would release the CBP earlier and allow more fluidity for the ROF and/or LOF. Thoughts? ROFL WP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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avfc1982am Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: It’s a Deep Defensive Forward Thrust. But I’m just taking the MIK. Sounds painful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 25 minutes ago, Davkaus said: It's amazing the opinions people will pretend to have so they can earn a living bringing in callers. Stop listening to that shite. Well said that man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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