rodders0223 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 (edited) I am not saying Jack is too small to play in the PL. I am saying it is something he needs to get used to, the physicallity. You are listing players who have played 100s of top flights games each. Experienced seasoned professionals. The comparison with them performing and Jack isn't even remotely right. Edited October 29, 2014 by rodders0223 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 It's hardly the 1970s. Slightest touch now and players go down and get a free-kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReasonforRevolution Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Jack was fantastic last night. It wasn't a one off either, he is consistently performing at a different class for the U21s. Even to the extent that last night Wolves fans were commenting in amazement he isn't getting first team time. Not that Wolves fans know best but it is high praise from opposition fans. I think he has to be considered. It isn't like we are firing on all cylinder's and I honestly think he can be a sensation in the Premiership. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1874 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Grealish should be starting games. Not making the odd squad / getting the odd run out off the bench. Why do we need to ease him in? He doesn't look lacking in confidence and would only get more confidence from playing. He's got the ability and is what we're crying out for in our team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsworthlion Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 What sh*te players lack in ability, they make up in physicality, for example,' off the top of my head (there are probably better examples) they do this to 'cope' with players like jack and the physicality is somewhat of a leveller. Players with god given ability don't need to 'cope'.. they just play! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nik986 Posted October 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2014 How a player who looks likely to do something everytime he touches the ball is not able to get into, at the very least, a matchday squad of a team who fail to create a decent goalscoring opportunity in over 300 odd minutes of football is beyond me. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 How a player who looks likely to do something everytime he touches the ball is not able to get into, at the very least, a matchday squad of a team who fail to create a decent goalscoring opportunity in over 300 odd minutes of football is beyond me. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I am not saying Jack is too small to play in the PL. I am saying it is something he needs to get used to, the physicallity. You are listing players who have played 100s of top flights games each. Experienced seasoned professionals. The comparison with them performing and Jack isn't even remotely right. What about Adnan Januzaj? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nik986 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Lambert probably prefers to leave him to work with his carrotts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 As others have said he can't possibly do any worse than some of the team so give the lad some time. We might even create some more goalscoring chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 could he have done any worse than Agbonlahor. We had all possesion and just needed players that could beat a man or deliver a good cross or even pass forwardUnfortunately, these are three things that I saw Jack rarely attempt in his first team appearances for us. Though I'm not Lambert's biggest fan right now (who is?!), I don't think Grealish is ready to provide the spark that we want him to. He needs game time, but I don't think he should be starting just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic_bouma Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Sod it Put him in the number 10 role behind Benteke against Spurs. In the short time he's spent on the pitch he's shown the ability to be constantly on the move finding pockets of space. He may just surprise spurs who know nothing about him. Gabby and Weimanns kick and rush tactics certainly aren't going to surprise them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 could he have done any worse than Agbonlahor. We had all possesion and just needed players that could beat a man or deliver a good cross or even pass forward Unfortunately, these are three things that I saw Jack rarely attempt in his first team appearances for us. Though I'm not Lambert's biggest fan right now (who is?!), I don't think Grealish is ready to provide the spark that we want him to. He needs game time, but I don't think he should be starting just yet. In saying that its hard to judge a player who has only played 98 mins over 4 games. Be barely warmed up when the game would be over. And for them 10 mins against stoke he has done as much as Wienman has since last Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 He can't be worse. I refuse to believe he could put in a performance that makes me long for weimman or gabby to be played in that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 could he have done any worse than Agbonlahor. We had all possesion and just needed players that could beat a man or deliver a good cross or even pass forward Unfortunately, these are three things that I saw Jack rarely attempt in his first team appearances for us. Though I'm not Lambert's biggest fan right now (who is?!), I don't think Grealish is ready to provide the spark that we want him to. He needs game time, but I don't think he should be starting just yet. In saying that its hard to judge a player who has only played 98 mins over 4 games. Be barely warmed up when the game would be over. And for them 10 mins against stoke he has done as much as Wienman has since last Christmas. Considering Weimann got the winner against Stoke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 could he have done any worse than Agbonlahor. We had all possesion and just needed players that could beat a man or deliver a good cross or even pass forward Unfortunately, these are three things that I saw Jack rarely attempt in his first team appearances for us. Though I'm not Lambert's biggest fan right now (who is?!), I don't think Grealish is ready to provide the spark that we want him to. He needs game time, but I don't think he should be starting just yet. In saying that its hard to judge a player who has only played 98 mins over 4 games. Be barely warmed up when the game would be over. And for them 10 mins against stoke he has done as much as Wienman has since last Christmas. Considering Weimann got the winner against Stoke. So you think Weinmann should be on before Grealish at the moment then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 could he have done any worse than Agbonlahor. We had all possesion and just needed players that could beat a man or deliver a good cross or even pass forward Unfortunately, these are three things that I saw Jack rarely attempt in his first team appearances for us. Though I'm not Lambert's biggest fan right now (who is?!), I don't think Grealish is ready to provide the spark that we want him to. He needs game time, but I don't think he should be starting just yet. In saying that its hard to judge a player who has only played 98 mins over 4 games. Be barely warmed up when the game would be over. And for them 10 mins against stoke he has done as much as Wienman has since last Christmas. Considering Weimann got the winner against Stoke. So you think Weinmann should be on before Grealish at the moment then? Didn't say that did I, you stated that Jack had done as much in 10mins at Stoke than Weimann has done for us since last Xmas, which obviously isn't true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Just watched the AVTV highlights and looks like Jack was very good again. I'm hoping that we take punt and just give him a start sometime soon, he deserves it I'm struggling to think he'd offer less than some of our more senior folk and I don't agree that one bad game (if he did have one) would decimate his confidence forever and ruin his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 could he have done any worse than Agbonlahor. We had all possesion and just needed players that could beat a man or deliver a good cross or even pass forward Unfortunately, these are three things that I saw Jack rarely attempt in his first team appearances for us. Though I'm not Lambert's biggest fan right now (who is?!), I don't think Grealish is ready to provide the spark that we want him to. He needs game time, but I don't think he should be starting just yet. In saying that its hard to judge a player who has only played 98 mins over 4 games. Be barely warmed up when the game would be over. And for them 10 mins against stoke he has done as much as Wienman has since last Christmas. Considering Weimann got the winner against Stoke. So you think Weinmann should be on before Grealish at the moment then? Didn't say that did I, you stated that Jack had done as much in 10mins at Stoke than Weimann has done for us since last Xmas, which obviously isn't true. Well if you take it literally then you are correct, but it was not the point i was trying to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Jack drawing so many fouls was instrumental in us holding that lead against stoke imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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