sir_gary_cahill Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Would bang? she's about 12 years old, I thought you were better than that ddid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Debatable. (Yewtree disclaimer - "just banter") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazvfc Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Will be the first British player sold for £100m You heard it hear first! But he isn't British, is he? Obviously chinese. He was born and raised in Birmingham, he's not Irish, his dad is. "Being born in a stable does not make one a horse" But it'll make him the messiah - or a very naughty boy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Whoops, did I say something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BentekenForAMug Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Will be the first British player sold for £100m You heard it hear first! But he isn't British, is he? Obviously chinese. He was born and raised in Birmingham, he's not Irish, his dad is. "Being born in a stable does not make one a horse" No, but it could make you an ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Great username BentekenForAMug! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7392craig Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 What I'm finding hilarious on here, is that people think you can choose what nationality you are. It's ridiculous lol How can anybody say "I consider him Irish". On what planet? He wasn't born in Ireland, he has one Irish and one English parent, for all we know he's never even BEEN to Ireland. What on earth brings people to believe he's Irish? Regardless of who he chooses to represent BECAUSE OF THE NATIONALITY OF HIS PARENTS, he still remains English. That is not something that I or anybody else can argue with. He's declared for Ireland. That's the only point anyone was making. In the eyes of FIFA, he is Irish. So any records he breaks won't go down as a British player breaking those records. We are not talking about his ACTUAL nationality. You are having that argument with yourself. As for the bold, you clearly don't know much about his career then. He's played for Ireland at pretty much every age level up until now. Pretty hard to do that without going to Ireland I was clearly talking about outside of football in regards to visiting Ireland. My point still stands that if he were sold for £100 mill, he would be a player, who is British, who was sold for £100 mill. Anyway, it's been pointed out that this is a pointless argument, and it is. He's a top talent, seems like a nice lad and is nuts about the Villa, that's all that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 When he is stronger he will be effin dangerous. His ability to glide away from trouble is fantastic and he seems like one of those players who knows he can tie defenders in knots at will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 So he wouldn't be the first British player to be sold for £100m, but he would be the first British 'person' to be sold for £100m? I have to say, I'm with the guys who say he would be the first 'British player'. There's a Fifa registered nationality, to simply declare your eligibility to play for ONE national team. Then there's your real life nationality. When people talk about 'the worlds first', I've never heard that it has to be in line with Fifa's registration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted April 13, 2015 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) No. He'd be the first Irish player. Just as if Owen Hargreaves had broken any records he would have been the first English player to do whatever it was he did, despite never having lived in England until he was 27. Lionel Messi is a Spanish citizen. Had he declared for Spain, which he had every right to, then everyone would refer to him as Spanish. He'd be the greatest Spanish player to have lived. People wouldn't say he's the greatest Argentinian player to have ever lived, oh but he plays for Spain. Diego Costa is the example of that. in football he is spanish. Despite the fact he didn't live there until he was 21 and already played twice for Brazil before declaring for Spain. If he breaks records he'll be known as the first Spanish player to do whatever it is. That's how it works in football. We're not a special case just because its England/Ireland. I can't quite believe I've spent so long explaining this! Edited April 13, 2015 by Stevo985 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I can't quite believe I've spent so long explaining this! I can. It's VT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skruff Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 When he is stronger he will be effin dangerous. His ability to glide away from trouble is fantastic and he seems like one of those players who knows he can tie defenders in knots at will. If he bulks up a bit and we got a Irish Hazard? Maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Will someone just ask him to upload his passport onto Instagram please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7392craig Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Will someone just ask him to upload his passport onto Instagram please His passport will be British, as he is. I understand the argument from other people. I don't agree and I can't understand how anybody can think that way. But it's a meaningless argument and I should respect their opinion either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjaacckk91 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Guys, On topic, It's great to see him starting to look the business in the first team, more of the same please jack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stevo985 Posted April 14, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) Will someone just ask him to upload his passport onto Instagram please His passport will be British, as he is. I understand the argument from other people. I don't agree and I can't understand how anybody can think that way. Because you still seem to think we're arguing about his actual nationality. We're not. We're arguing about how he is viewed in the footballing world. And as explained above, that revolves around what country you play your international football for. In the real world, Jack Grealish is british. But in footballing terms, he is now Irish. You may not be able to get your head around that, but I'm afraid that's just how it works. Diego Costa is Brazilian, but in football he is Spanish. Our very own Ciaran Clark has never lived in Ireland. But in footballing terms, he is Irish. Edited April 14, 2015 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 The toughening up will come Im sure - His decision making also needs a bit of work - Id like to see him shoot at the end of those mazy runs he goes on (Wembley would be good !) - and sometimes he hangs onto the ball too long... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 14, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted April 14, 2015 Yeah the toughening up will be something that comes naturally. To make it he'll have to toughen up. But he already seems pretty good at riding challenges, so with experience he'll get better and better. I was quite harsh on Jack when he first started playing. I think it took him a while to show that he deserved to be on the pitch. Last few games he's really looked like he belongs. I can't wait to see more of him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I don't actually think strength is the main issue, though he will develop on that front for sure. If you look at players like Ashley Young and David Silva they are by no means strong, it is more about knowing where to put your body in relation to the defender being assured of your touch. That comes with game time and given his touch and skill it wouldnt surprise me if in a season or two he is very very economical with the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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