nick76 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Just now, villa4europe said: He sounds like a 13 year old girl whose first boyfriend dumped her a week after he said he loved her Surprised he didn't make reference to his shit hair and stupid shin pads To you it sounds like that and I think you’re wrong. It’s more after 20 years together and marriage commitment 10 months ago and commenting about building a life together the husband walks out to a younger, richer woman and starts saying his life is better and indirectly dissing his former wife and everybody saying it’s great then somebody comes along and says this isn’t right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2021 Nah sorry I'm with PREECE on this, I responded to Jack's comment as well. Thing is, some people are/were so brainwashed and in love with Jack that he could/can do no wrong. These are the same ones partially responsible for inflating his ego. It's like the girl with the abusive ex who's great in bed so he can do anything he likes and get away with it. Lol 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Mr_Dogg said: Terrible article. Spinning opinion as fact, the type of clickbait article that site specialises in. Read the actual interview and make up you own mind. It starts as saying it’s an Opinion piece. It literally says Quote OPINION 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, villa4europe said: That's pure opinion He said it was, it literally says “Opinion” at the beginning Quote OPINION Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 I think folks are investing too much time and energy in this now but at some point, even they’ll ‘get over it’. It’s just a football player moving to another club, it’s happened before it’ll happen again. The modern day obsession with individual players doesn’t help of course. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Its an opinion piece but he is too emotional to write it. He might have some points but in the end he looks pretty bad, Grealish responding is just as bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 How some people act on here about Grealish makes me cringe to the high hills. All this hyperbole and para-social behaviours got me like… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Just now, CarryOnVilla said: How some people act on here about Grealish makes me cringe to the high hills. All this hyperbole and para-social behaviours got me like… So don’t read it! You don’t have to come on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Just now, nick76 said: So don’t read it! You don’t have to come on this thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HanoiVillan Posted September 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, Fairy In Boots said: He’s bang on from all I’ve seen over the last two years he’s nailed on in Jack’s thought process and his mindset and arrogance, he’s right there is contempt for Villa, he thinks he’s bigger than us. the quote about the JG10 the brand is bang on, I know this to be true I could tell you who does what and planned social media campaigns etc. Dislike the article all you want but Preece is factually on the money 'Factually'. Here is the whole article. I have bolded the bits in it which are actual facts: 'There was a real smugness and arrogance to Jack Grealish that was quite distasteful as he sat in a sports hall at St George's Park as he spoke to ITV's Gabriel Clarke ahead of England's 4-0 win in Hungary. The former Aston Villa captain was no longer this innocent yet totally engaging footballer Villa fans idolised. In fact, the 25-year-old was quite frankly unrecognisable as he delivered some painful and, to some extent, insulting words about his boyhood club. Clarke asked him if he ever thought that the £100million clause would be met and, as if staying at Villa would have been a total inconvenience for him, delivered the most telling of comments. "Maybe, yeah," Grealish outlined with brutal honesty. "That's why we had it put in..." Then there was a gasp, as if Grealish had to backtrack knowing that ice-cold statement lacked total respect to Aston Villa Football Club. It irked and angered Villa fans, I know it did. It's fact, I get that, but you don't spill it and deliver it the way he did knowing millions will be hanging onto his every word. Grealish may as well have tweeted out, 'My city. My club. My release clause' just 12 months ago when he signed his five-year deal to become Villa's highest-paid player in the club's history. He also believed in Villa's project, or so he said, before engineering a move 11 months later. 'I couldn't wait to get out,' was the vibe I got from Grealish's interview this week, while he also spoke of the "massive reason" behind his City transfer with regards to his England prospects. "I feel to be playing for England in the biggest of games I need to be playing at club level in the biggest of games, that'll be the Champions League, all these types of games," he said. Now, again, those comments just don't stack up knowing that, this week, Kalvin Phillips was named England's player of the year for his standout Euro 2020 campaign with the Leeds United man now amongst the first names on Gareth Southgate's team sheet. It's the same with Everton and England No.1 Jordan Pickford and West Ham's Declan Rice who, this season, will taste Europa League football for the first time. All three started in Hungary last night and all three are top picks despite never playing Champions League football. Come off it, Jack. Jealousy was a huge factor behind Grealish's move knowing he couldn't stand the likes of Phil Foden, Jude Bellingham and Mason Mount all drawing rave reviews for their star showings in Europe. Grealish also referenced this in his ITV interview. "You see the likes of Phil last year playing in all these Champions League games in the quarters, semis and final and, you know, you could see that it did help his England career as well," he said. Southgate hasn't helped in that regard, though, as he failed to pick Grealish time and time again despite the ex-Villa man outperforming Raheem Sterling, Foden, Mount and others on a weekly basis at 'little old Villa'. Grealish always made a difference whenever called upon with England while he became transfixed with getting his goal and assist numbers up, a motivation and obsession ingrained into him from Dean Smith's very first day as Villa boss in October 2018. The Villa gaffer immediately knocked Grealish down a peg when he arrived. He pointed to his whiteboard at Bodymoor and told his star man, 'So you were going to sign for Spurs in the summer? For £25million?' The boss then hit Grealish who, by the sounds of it, was gutted his Tottenham move didn't pan out, with the coldest of reality checks knowing he had no goals and just one assist from Villa's first 12 games in the Championship. That moment of brilliant man-management sparked Grealish's career into life yet, as his ITV interview continued this week, it was all about The Grealish Show as he spoke of Pep Guardiola wanting the same in terms of numbers while speaking of his first goal in a City shirt. Clarke was then in with another brilliant question asking Grealish if he's better after less than a month at the Etihad. "Yeah, 100 per cent," he said. "You just pick up stuff from certain players. Everyone's an international at a top, top country. It makes you up your standards." Now that's not much of an endorsement for his former teammates at Villa, is it? There was just zero affection for Villa, a club he banged on about loving, in Grealish's first England interview since leaving. It just stank of 'Villa aren't good enough for me, I'm better than that'. I remember Smith's parting comments outlining how he told Grealish, 'Don't be a stranger now' but it's as if he is. The boyhood Villan has long gone. It's JG10 the brand, the PR machine. Smith also said Grealish should be thankful to Villa, of no doubt he is, from his ex-teammates, coaches and right down to the canteen staff who cooked him beans on toast of a morning when he was a kid coming through. The interview was a shocker. The body language, the quotes. It lacked class and class is something you'd always associate with Grealish.' Those are the correct facts, ie some facts about other players, some details of his transfer, some stats about a Championship season, his age, and some quotes (though plenty of things that appear to be quotes are in fact not). The rest is gossip, conjecture, Preece's personal interpretation and a certain amount of pure fantasy. Here are some phrases used in the article that you definitely don't get taught to use in journalism school: 'as if' (used twice) 'may as well have tweeted out' (ie, he didn't tweet this) 'was the vibe I got from' 'come off it' 'by the sounds of it' 'banged on about' 'it just stank of' It's just unprofessional, and the most embarrassing thing is that he's done it in the seemingly correct belief that loads of barking seals will be clapping along to it. Our fans can be pure cringe sometimes. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted September 3, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted September 3, 2021 23 minutes ago, Xela said: One thing I think we can all agree on (or most of us at least ) is that footballers are basically only interested in themselves first and foremost. Loyalty barely exists anymore. Thats fine, it is what it is. I don't think we'll see a Le Tissier or Bull again. ultimately, however you feel about grealish, this is the saddest thing of all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) The Kalvin Phillips point is a little flawed because England have nowhere near the same and amount of level of talent in those positions as the ones he is competing for. Edited September 3, 2021 by villalad21 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantholtgolazo Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 guess I'm just another barking seal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Villain Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 27 minutes ago, Xela said: One thing I think we can all agree on (or most of us at least ) is that footballers are basically only interested in themselves first and foremost. Loyalty barely exists anymore. Thats fine, it is what it is. I don't think we'll see a Le Tissier or Bull again. Unless Mark Noble makes it his last playing year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KentVillan Posted September 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2021 The article is cringe. It makes one or two fair points (especially re: Phillips, Rice, etc), and of course we all know that footballers kiss the badge and don't mean it. But it's a teenager's diary entry. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 24 minutes ago, villa4europe said: The opening sentence is There was a real smugness and arrogance to Jack Grealish that was quite distasteful as he sat in a sports hall at St George's Park as he spoke to ITV's Gabriel Clarke ahead of England's 4-0 win in Hungary That's pure opinion that like you say is overly emotional Its really poor It's an opinion piece so what else would you expect?! It is Ashley's take on the Grealish interview and nothing more. My personal thought is that he is correct with some of the assessment. I've said it before, but Grealish will probably forget he even played for Villa in 12 months time. Its all about him getting the accolades from others and fuelling narcissistic desires to be the most popular and talked about footballer on the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 33 minutes ago, Fairy In Boots said: He’s bang on from all I’ve seen over the last two years he’s nailed on in Jack’s thought process and his mindset and arrogance, he’s right there is contempt for Villa, he thinks he’s bigger than us. the quote about the JG10 the brand is bang on, I know this to be true I could tell you who does what and planned social media campaigns etc. Why don't you? He's not at Villa now, so no worries about unsettling his season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 minute ago, DJ_Villain said: Unless Mark Noble makes it his last playing year Did anyone else actually want him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Here is one of my thoughts. Substitute Jack Grealish with Tyrone Mings, do you think if this was Mings move, it would have been handled the same? Bare in mind, Tyrone Mings isn't even " Villa through and through ", but you could almost guarantee he would exercise more common sense and courtesy. Well, unless you're Bournemouth that is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 28 minutes ago, nick76 said: Or just an honest assessment of the situation! You don’t agree with it so you think it’s embarrassing/cringe whereas many of us feel it’s spot on. Nothing to do disenchanted elements of the fan base just an great honest article about the situation and not some cold fluff piece. Great article! Anything but cringe! I don't know if you're intending to copy the style and syntax of Trump's tweets, but it's not a bad effort if you are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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