AVFCDAN Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Smith looks genuinely gutted to me, kind of feel for the guy. Yes he messed up but the way the media and cricket fans in general have come down on him you would think he has done something far worse. This will take a while to blow over for sure, I bet even when he leaves his house he'll be getting comments and abuse and no doubt his family will be victims of that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Zero sympathy for any of them. Warner and Smith have been total arseholes for the past 18-24 months in particular, I would in fact say that I am really enjoying it all. The tampering itself is not that horrendous an act, but the attempt to cover it all up was embarrassing. You have to keep in mind, this was not a spur of the moment decision, it was a carefully planned and premeditated course of action, they deserve everything coming to them. I also wouldn't be so naive as to fall for Smith's crocodile tears either folks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Zero sympathy for any of them. Warner and Smith have been total arseholes for the past 18-24 months in particular, I would in fact say that I am really enjoying it all. The tampering itself is not that horrendous an act, but the attempt to cover it all up was embarrassing. You have to keep in mind, this was not a spur of the moment decision, it was a carefully planned and premeditated course of action, they deserve everything coming to them. I also wouldn't be so naive as to fall for Smith's crocodile tears either folks. It was slightly awkward and unconvincing. It reminded me of that gif of the lad from Dawson's Creek crying that gets posted on here sometimes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 England the big winners from this incident as the shambles vs New Zealand has been glossed over 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Originally welcomed a big reaction and punishment, it was premeditated fraud on the opposition, the public, and the game. HOWEVER......... the players have expressed more regret - probably genuine - contrition and guilt than I’ve heard any Politician, Executive, Tax evader, Reporter, or other public figure express in thirty years. All those people could learn something about actually regrettin* what you’ve done. Additionally they shoukd now be left alone and, when the ban is up be welcomed back into the Sport....they haven’t killed anybody and seem genuinely saddened. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Lehmann to step down which was inevitable. I assume it'll Langer next but it would be typical Sussex luck to lose Gillespie before even playing a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 On a lighter note, those Aussies eh ? Oh Boo- hoo ! Plenty sledging material there lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 4 hours ago, sharkyvilla said: Lehmann to step down which was inevitable. Why, though, did he wait until after Cricket Australia and he had said he would remain in post, that it was nothing to do with him and the three players had been given their bans and sent home? I don't think Lehmann comes out of this very well at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted March 29, 2018 Moderator Share Posted March 29, 2018 35 minutes ago, snowychap said: Why, though, did he wait until after Cricket Australia and he had said he would remain in post, that it was nothing to do with him and the three players had been given their bans and sent home? I don't think Lehmann comes out of this very well at all. Negotiating pay-off, I'd imagine. Which if CA found he wasn't involved, but sort of hinted that a new start was needed, he'd maybe need to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 3 hours ago, blandy said: Negotiating pay-off, I'd imagine. Which if CA found he wasn't involved, but sort of hinted that a new start was needed, he'd maybe need to do. Perhaps. Anyway, we've lost the toss and they've stuck us in. Let's hope we can still be batting tomorrow (BST ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted March 29, 2018 Moderator Share Posted March 29, 2018 A slightly familiar start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Cement in the shoes of England's top order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) Not sure about there being two bites at the cherry on the review. Thankfully, it worked out for England. Though if Vince reviewed the catch (as that was what the decision was) and it was not out then it should have been up to NZ to decide if they wanted to review it for an LBW, surely? Edited March 29, 2018 by snowychap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted March 29, 2018 Moderator Share Posted March 29, 2018 No pressure skipper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 8 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: No pressure skipper. To be fair at 40/2 on the first morning, we're positively rocking along. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Why Vince was brought back into the team I will never know. Failed during his first audition in the summer of 2016 against Sri Lanka and Pakistan, failed against Aus in the winter yet still gets a game ahead of Livingstone. Woakes has every right to feel hard done by as well, there's no way Wood will get through the test match without picking up some sort of knock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 9 hours ago, snowychap said: Why, though, did he wait until after Cricket Australia and he had said he would remain in post, that it was nothing to do with him and the three players had been given their bans and sent home? I don't think Lehmann comes out of this very well at all. Lehmann said he realised he had to step down after seeing how broken Smith & Bancroft were by the whole thing. The three of them all seem genuinely upset and full of regret when facing the press, and while I think they deserve the punishments it's hard not to feel a little sorry for them. But, also, bahahahahaha! Warner on the other hand posted a by-the-numbers statement on Twitter and doesn't seem to have the guts to face the cameras, like the absolute arse that he is. Suspect it will be Langer that comes in to replace Lehmann, but it should be Ponting. Ponting understands cricket and cricketers better than anyone else in the world I think, and is already part of the Aussie T20 set up. Persoanlly I hope they go for Bayliss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 1 hour ago, MrDuck said: Lehmann said he realised he had to step down after seeing how broken Smith & Bancroft were by the whole thing. I'm not sure I believe him much as I don't particularly believe that he knew nothing of what happened. We'll find out in a book in a few years' time, no doubt. As for genuinely upset? By getting caught, by losing reputations and, for Smith in particular, by losing a fair few bucks but I'm not buying the full of regret. 1 hour ago, MrDuck said: Persoanlly I hope they go for Bayliss Yes, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Good efforts from Bairstow and Wood but otherwise it's pretty grim. I think Stoneman and Vince may just have one more innings in their test careers. So may Cook but that might be him deciding that the farm's a better bet than being at the crease. I wonder whether the side to face Pakistan in May will be quite different. Probably not, unfortunately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 The lack of decent batsmen in England is very worrying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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