Cricket: General Chat

[veloman]

Does the name 'Ed Smith' resonate with cricket fans ? Neither of my 2 (Villa supporting) Warwickshire member friends had ever heard of him. His illustrious career seems to run to 3 Test Matches + commentator. BUT ... he did play for Middlesex and Kent so that helps. 

[turvontour]

Come on Warwick. Important days cricket this.

[imavillan]

Anybody know when next years England tour of the West Indies fixtures dates are confirmed?

I’m looking to book a holiday to take in a game and want to book early to save a couple of bob.

I’ve looked on the ECB site but with no joy. Any help would be appreciated.

 

[sharkyvilla]

6 hours ago, imavillan said:

Anybody know when next years England tour of the West Indies fixtures dates are confirmed?

I’m looking to book a holiday to take in a game and want to book early to save a couple of bob.

I’ve looked on the ECB site but with no joy. Any help would be appreciated.

 

I can only see a vague February/March date written anywhere, so I guess it's a case of checking regularly for when the itinerary comes out.  I'd love to do a Test or two there.

[dAVe80]

10 hours ago, imavillan said:

Anybody know when next years England tour of the West Indies fixtures dates are confirmed?

I’m looking to book a holiday to take in a game and want to book early to save a couple of bob.

I’ve looked on the ECB site but with no joy. Any help would be appreciated.

 

January to March 2019 apparently. Not sure if actual dates of tests / odis / t20s are confirmed yet though. Usually have the test series first. I think Jamaica, Antigua, an Barbados will get the test matches. I did Barbados in 09, and it was amazing. Stopped in Saint Lawrence Gap, and got a taxi / bus into Bridgetown on the days the cricket was on.

[imavillan]

This is the only info i can find trawling the net.

https://www.cricschedule.com/ftp/team/england.html

Feb-Mar 2019

England tour of West Indies 2019  Matches: 3 Test, 5 ODI and 1 T20  Venue: West Indies

[veloman]

Jonathon Trott to retire at the end of the season. Quite a loss to Warks I reckon; just hope some of the younger players coming through can eventually match his concentration levels (and , indeed , skill).

[Avfc96]

Hopefully Hain can really kick on in the four day stuff to help to soften the blow of Trotty deciding to call it a day.

[sharkyvilla]

1 hour ago, veloman said:

Jonathon Trott to retire at the end of the season. Quite a loss to Warks I reckon; just hope some of the younger players coming through can eventually match his concentration levels (and , indeed , skill).

They'll get nabbed by England if they turn out that good.

[dAVe80]

I see Virat Kohli is signing for Surrey. Yeah, lets give him the opportunity to practice against the swinging ball in England, ahead of the Test series... What could possibly go wrong?

[veloman]

re. above ^^^ and Yeah - aren't Warks interested in signing big names anymore.

[snowychap]

Ireland were 7 for 4 against Pakistan earlier. Who do they think they are - England?

[Zatman]

Ireland always bowl well and field with enthusiasm and honesty but batting always seems to let us down against big teams

[Zatman]

Triple post

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[Zatman]

Oops

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[Zatman]

Lot better today, will put 1st innings down to nerves and nice we have made a game at least

Kevin O'Brien never lets Ireland down, wonder why England never came for him like with others

[Rodders]

On 13/05/2018 at 14:17, snowychap said:

Ireland were 7 for 4 against Pakistan earlier. Who do they think they are - England?

 

Pakistan now 14/3 chasing 160 to win . Cracking effort from Ireland to get it this far. Would be an astonishing win if they can keep this pressure up. 

[Zatman]

Great effort but not to be, credit Pakistan they could have easily crumbled. first innings collapse/nerves was costly

lost our Test unbeaten record  

[snowychap]

Ireland’s moment in the sun comes just as it is setting on Test cricket

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North Richmond Street, being blind, is a quiet street. There is nothing there to tell you what went on at No 17, the red-brick terrace house where James Joyce lived as a kid. Round the back there is a courtyard garden, where Joyce spent happy hours batting against his brother John. “I remember having to bowl for him for perhaps an hour at a time,” John wrote. “I did so out of pure goodness of heart since, for my part, I loathed the silly, tedious, inconclusive game.” James was a “useful bat” and “eagerly studied the feats of Ranji and Fry, Trumper and Spofforth”. Years later he threaded the four of them into the text of Finnegans Wake.

It was the week for old stories about Irish cricketers. There is another about Samuel Beckett, half-true, about how, when he lived in Ussy-sur-Marne, he would drive the neighbour’s boy to school in his convertible. The kid was so big he could not fit in the bus seats. When he grew up they called him André the Giant. “I asked André what he and the famous author talked about when they were together,” wrote Cary Elwes. “‘Mostly cricket,’ André recalled.” Beckett opened the batting and bowling for Trinity College. He had a first-class batting average of 8.75 and, like Joyce, he never lost his taste for it.

It is funny to think these great men had the same daydreams as the rest of us. Joyce and Beckett are two famous members of the small band of Irish Test match fans. In the 20th century this was a fruitless pursuit. For the past 140 years the only way an Irishman would play Test cricket was if he got picked for England. Leland Hone was the first to do it, in 1879. Hone, who kept wicket in the third-ever Test, was the first of seven Irishmen to play Tests for England. But there were many more, boys and men, who would have played for Ireland if they had had the chance.

Men like Tom Ross, who took nine for 28 against South Africa, and Dougie Goodwin, who took five for six against West Indies in that famous game at Sion Mills in 1969. Men like Scott Huey, who topped Wisden’s first-class averages in 1954. In those days a bowler needed to take 10 wickets to qualify for Wisden’s list. Huey played only one first-class game all summer, against MCC, but he took 14 for 97. Men like Jimmy Boucher, who took 168 wickets in first-class cricket, at 14 each, seven of them for 13 runs against New Zealand.

The inaugural Irish Test XI took to the field for the first time at Malahide last Saturday, at least a hundred years later than they might have done. “Tomorrow 11 of us will represent the 688 who have gone before us,” wrote Andy Balbirnie. “Thank you for paving the way for us to fulfil our dreams.”

Malahide came as a sweet relief for an Englishman, upwind from Colin Graves’ Ratner-esque blather and the ECB’s steaming pile of “fresh tactical dimensions”. Graves, 70, was at it again on Monday, pontificating on the BBC about what the “younger generation” want. There was never a better reason to switch over to Guerilla Cricket, where it was broadcasting Kevin O’Brien’s fine innings, the first Test hundred for Ireland. It almost set up an improbable victory but in the end Ireland lost by five wickets. Which means Australia are still the only team to win their first Test.

Except even in Ireland, where Test cricket was only just born, there was a whiff of something terminal about it. Over the weekend Brendon McCullum, the former New Zealand captain who did as much for the format as any other modern player, said in an interview: “I firmly believe Test cricket won’t be around in time, because there’s only so many teams that can afford to play it.”

Ireland are not one of them. One could hear it in the words of their captain, William Porterfield, and chief executive, Warren Deutrom. “For most countries,” the latter said, “Test cricket, apart from England-Australia, which is the obvious exception, is a loss-leader.”

Ireland are due to play only 16 Tests in the next five years. “It is going to be very hard to organise three- or five-game series with the cost that is involved. It would be great if we could play quite a few Tests a year but it is not financially viable as it stands,” Porterfield added. “That is what it is.”

For all our romantic blarney about what Test cricket means to the Irish, Porterfield’s blunt truth is that the chance to play the game is just a bonus that came along with full membership of the ICC, which Ireland were finally granted last year. Full membership allows their administrators to plan not just for six to 12 months but three years down the line, to know what fixtures they are going to get and what funding they are going to get.

“So that is probably the biggest thing it brings from Cricket Ireland’s point of view,” Porterfield said, “and Test cricket comes along with that and we are fortunate enough to get that opportunity. But, to be honest, T20 probably has taken over.”

One could see that in the scaffolding grandstands. Cricket Ireland had set up only 6,000 seats and it did not fill them. When Ireland play two T20s against India this summer, the capacity will be increased to 8,000. Outside England and Australia Test cricket is a heritage business. The Irish may as well have discovered a sudden enthusiasm for steam trains.

 

[tonyh29]

Was looking at the cricket World cup ballot today

England v South Africa @ the oval  , cheapest ticket £70 , tickets behind  the wicket  - £235 !!!

few days later Bangladesh v New Zealand at the oval - cheapest ticket £18  rising  to £75 for behind the wicket

 

they can jog on , I'm not going out of principle