mikeyp102 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) Have a feeling Cook will be gone, just doesn’t look at the races. It’s always hard to stay in and motivated when no longer captain. Would’ve been great to see him be He old cook and hit high scores continuously. Root really needs to step up now, only seems to get scores when everyone else is, when we need a big captains innings from him he doesn’t do it enough. Edited March 30, 2018 by mikeyp102 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 16 hours ago, snowychap said: So may Cook but that might be him deciding that the farm's a better bet than being at the crease. Well it's not like he's really spending any time at the crease these days! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 11 hours ago, mikeyp102 said: Would’ve been great to see him be He old cook and hit high scores continuously. I'm not sure that's right. He didn't go quite through the patch that he has over the last 18 months where, other than the two big double hundreds, he's largely failed but he has otherwise had a couple of proper runs of failure before coming good again. The thing is those 'coming good again' times were a series of good innings for a sustained period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, mikeyp102 said: Root really needs to step up now, only seems to get scores when everyone else is, when we need a big captains innings from him he doesn’t do it enough. I agree that he needs to step up. Not sure with the only scores when others do, though. His real problem is about converting starts (and for him that's anything up to 60s/70s) in to big runs. It's becoming a major disappointment for someone so obviously talented. Edited March 30, 2018 by snowychap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted March 30, 2018 Moderator Share Posted March 30, 2018 Well now, this is a very decent start to the second day. 17-4 NZ. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 (edited) What an utter load of shit from Warner. He did the 'blow out' thing, though. Edit: He's utterly unwilling to accept that he did anything wrong. Edited March 31, 2018 by snowychap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 "Who's idea was it?" No response and they took him out of the pc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 The David Warner press conference was an absolute joke. Crocodile tears, and avoiding answering questions, by repeating his pre rehearsed lines. Pathetic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veloman Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 There is no doubt this cheating is very bad for cricket but ..... is the media reaction a bit excessive ? He hasn't murdered anyone; seems a bit like the furore over Lance Armstrong. Anyway, how come Atherton seems to have got away Scot free (dirt in pocket) AND he is from Lancashire !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, veloman said: There is no doubt this cheating is very bad for cricket but ..... is the media reaction a bit excessive ? Particularly when you bear in mind the actions of countless NRL and AFL players such as Greg Bird (glassed his girlfriend) and Matthew Lodge (threatened two women telling them that they were going to die, then beat the owner of an apartment who let them in when they tried to escape, before forcing his way inside and trying to attack a woman and 9 year-old child, beating down the bathroom door they’d locked themselves behind), amongst many others (including countless incidences of domestic violence). Apparently these weren’t incidents that ‘shamed a nation’ and the individuals involved received far less condemnation in the media. Edited March 31, 2018 by JB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 I think the worst thing for me, is that on the back of this, people are starting to question everything. An Aussie mate was even trying to argue that the fact England are better at getting the ball to reverse swing, means that you could question if they tampered with the ball? The fall out of this means that we're likely going to question everything that happens in a game now. We're not just going to be able to enjoy the skills on show, we're going to be constantly asking if they tampered with the ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 1 hour ago, dAVe80 said: I think the worst thing for me, is that on the back of this, people are starting to question everything. An Aussie mate was even trying to argue that the fact England are better at getting the ball to reverse swing, means that you could question if they tampered with the ball? The fall out of this means that we're likely going to question everything that happens in a game now. We're not just going to be able to enjoy the skills on show, we're going to be constantly asking if they tampered with the ball? I am sure Trescothick has admitted that he used Murray Mints during 2005 Ashes and was no condemnation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 1, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted April 1, 2018 19 hours ago, Zatman said: I am sure Trescothick has admitted that he used Murray Mints during 2005 Ashes and was no condemnation Maybe be because it actually hampered his bowling by slowing him down? After all they're too good to hurry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 We're going to bollocks this up, aren't we? Set them 350 or so and Williamson and Taylor will knock 'em off with no trouble? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Maybe not - two wickets in the first two balls including Williamson first ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Well played NZ, deserved to win the series. Although frankly this series really should have been three matches. Two well matched teams. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veloman Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Anyway ... far more important than some Test Match --- let's hope De Grandhomme carries his form to Warwickshire this season ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veloman Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) I don't know if I have been slow in picking this up but I read that Wisden is going to ban the expression "Chinaman" from their book. Is this entirely serious ? I wonder how many Chinese actually follow cricket in order to be offended ? Has the World gone mad or is this at reasonable move by the authorities? Answers on a postcard. Oh .. and I wonder what the chances of Warks first match against Sussex going ahead tomorrow ! Edited April 12, 2018 by veloman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted April 12, 2018 Moderator Share Posted April 12, 2018 1 minute ago, veloman said: I don't know if I have been slow in picking this up but I read that Wisden is going to ban the expression "Chinaman" from their book. Is this entirely serious ? I wonder how many Chinese actually follow cricket in order to be offended ? Has the World gone mad or is this at reasonable move by the authorities? Answers on a postcard. There was a bit of a kerfuffle about it this time year, too IIRC - when the Indian team beat the Aussies - .I think it related to the "deceptive" nature of the delivery (a left arm spinner's wrong 'un) being associated with the chinese. I think it's probably the right thing to do, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 50 minutes ago, blandy said: There was a bit of a kerfuffle about it this time year, too IIRC - when the Indian team beat the Aussies - .I think it related to the "deceptive" nature of the delivery (a left arm spinner's wrong 'un) being associated with the chinese. I think it's probably the right thing to do, really. If I remember right it goes back to when the West Indies had a left arm leg spinner called Achong, and one of the English batsmen said 'I can't believe I got out to a Chinaman' or something along those lines. It probably is time to ditch the term,though I doubt any Chinese people will care either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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