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maqroll Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 This will be my last post on VT. Not ever (probably). But certainly for the near future. I post way too much, and genuinely (and I do mean genuinely) think I have some sort of unhealthy addiction to this place. So whilst I love the place, 30,000 posts seems to be as good a point as any to go cold turkey and call it a day. I'll probably still read the site, mostly for Villa news, and I'm sure I'll be back at some point, even just to say hi. But for now at least, it's goodbye. I love you all x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Moving house - they do say it is one of the most stressful experiences of your life and I have to agree. Mine has been straightforward as well... got the keys to my new place and still living in my old place but today is the 'big move'. The removal people come at 9. Even after this I will still have the keys to my old place for a week so can come back over the bank holiday weekend and tidy up and pick up the last few things. How people move lock stock and barrel in one day and into a new place I'll never know! I think I would have had a breakdown! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Moving house - they do say it is one of the most stressful experiences of your life and I have to agree. Mine has been straightforward as well... got the keys to my new place and still living in my old place but today is the 'big move'. The removal people come at 9. Even after this I will still have the keys to my old place for a week so can come back over the bank holiday weekend and tidy up and pick up the last few things. How people move lock stock and barrel in one day and into a new place I'll never know! I think I would have had a breakdown! I don't think it so much the physical act of moving boxes and items from one location to the other that's the stress. That's the easy-ish part. it's the turmoil of the purchase (and often sale connected to that). The not knowing what's going on. Then increasing delays and costs. The potential deal collapse. I guess if you've also lived somewhere for a while and have emotional and sentimental attachements, then leaving all that behind is also relatively traumatic. But actually physically moving isn't too bad, as long as you've got everything 'boxed up'. And if you've got removal men, then it makes it even easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Not to mention the changing of addresses for bills/ address on Driving Licence etc etc. My bank statements were still going to my old house for 2 months when I was back at my parents, and then for a further 10 months when I was in my new house. (Though, my parents are the landlords of the house where my statements were going, so I got them all eventually). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Who's this Stevo everyone is talking about? Not the guy with the Slane girl right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Anyway... in today's news. Peru drugs: UK pair charged with drug offences Two women from the UK arrested in Peru on suspicion of drug smuggling have been charged and face a maximum sentence of 15 years if convicted. Michaella McCollum, of Dungannon in Northern Ireland, and Melissa Reid, of Lenzie near Glasgow, are accused of trying to smuggle cocaine with a street value of £1.5m out of the country. Ms McCollum's lawyer Peter Madden said both women would plead not guilty. It is likely the pair will be transferred to prison to await trial. 'Full glare' The women, both 20, have spent the last two weeks in custody over the drug trafficking allegations. They were taken from their holding cells on Tuesday and transferred by police escort to the neighbouring province of Callao, which has jurisdiction over their case. The case has attracted intense media interest The women were given a brief medical examination before being taken to the public prosecutor's office where they gave full statements. They spent the night in cells at the courthouse awaiting a judge's decision. The BBC's Will Grant, in Peru, said this came several hours later than expected. "The charges came at the end of a difficult day for the two, who had spent two weeks inside a police cell in Lima without charge," he said. "When the women were eventually moved to the courthouse in Callao, it was under the full glare of the local and international media." Melissa Reid's father and brother have flown out to Peru "Neither of the women speak any Spanish and the convoluted legal system in Peru is often complex for those well versed in the law," our correspondent said. "However, at least in the short term, it is a situation they are going to have to adapt to as the Peruvian authorities are likely to take several months before the trial reaches court," he said. 'Pretty grim' Meanwhile, Mr Madden criticised the conditions the women were being kept in, saying they had not been fed all day on Tuesday. He said Ms McCollum's brother Sean had not been allowed to see her, although the lawyer and an accompanying priest had. Both women say they were forced to carry the bags Mr Madden said: "The conditions inside the holding cells are pretty grim. "They are expected to lie on the floor, there's a sort of a sponge-type bed which is just not acceptable. There are no blankets - it's not clean. "And the most important thing is they haven't actually been offered any food today and it doesn't look as though they are going to be." Ms McCollum and Ms Reid are accused of trying to smuggle 11kg (24lb) of cocaine out of Peru in food packages in their luggage. The pair were stopped while trying to board a flight to Madrid two weeks ago. Both women say they were forcibly recruited as drug mules by an armed gang while working in bars on the Spanish island of Ibiza, and travelled to Peru under duress. Drug trafficking in Peru carries an average sentence of eight to nine years in prison, but there are harsher sentences for being part of a criminal organisation. The women could face up to three years in jail before trial if they are refused bail. Anyone else think these ladies are perhaps not the criminal masterminds they're being portrayed as? They may have been complicit in the crime, they may have been coerced and threatened. I dunno about that bit, but I do find it a little far fetched that 2, 20 year old British girls would alone have the connections to buy £1.5 million worth of cocaine. Neither of them speak Spanish...and it seems the Peruvian authorities are willing to use them as scapegoats without chasing the people really behind this. Madness. I read THIS book a few weeks ago on holiday. Trashy indeed, but it tells a very similar story. Girls going to Spain to live a party lifestyle who then get absorbed into a seedy and nasty drug culture and end up being manipulated by nasty bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted August 21, 2013 Moderator Share Posted August 21, 2013 What's the situation?She blows a couple of guys, one gets his hands in the till. Pictures on the web, parents find out, she's only 17, she's upset?That and the fact that (as I expected might happen) she's now suicidal and has seemingly been put into an induced coma to protect her. That's the disproportionate fallout from what was; in the grand scheme of things; a fairly innocuous event that probably goes on all the time at venues like that and which can now literally ruin someone's life. She might be a slag but she doesn't deserve that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 (edited) What the hell is on top of lady's head? Should be given 10 years just for that haircut. Edited August 21, 2013 by AVFCforever1991 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Anyway... in today's news. Peru drugs: UK pair charged with drug offences Two women from the UK arrested in Peru on suspicion of drug smuggling have been charged and face a maximum sentence of 15 years if convicted. Michaella McCollum, of Dungannon in Northern Ireland, and Melissa Reid, of Lenzie near Glasgow, are accused of trying to smuggle cocaine with a street value of £1.5m out of the country. Ms McCollum's lawyer Peter Madden said both women would plead not guilty. It is likely the pair will be transferred to prison to await trial. 'Full glare' The women, both 20, have spent the last two weeks in custody over the drug trafficking allegations. They were taken from their holding cells on Tuesday and transferred by police escort to the neighbouring province of Callao, which has jurisdiction over their case. The case has attracted intense media interest The women were given a brief medical examination before being taken to the public prosecutor's office where they gave full statements. They spent the night in cells at the courthouse awaiting a judge's decision. The BBC's Will Grant, in Peru, said this came several hours later than expected. "The charges came at the end of a difficult day for the two, who had spent two weeks inside a police cell in Lima without charge," he said. "When the women were eventually moved to the courthouse in Callao, it was under the full glare of the local and international media." Melissa Reid's father and brother have flown out to Peru "Neither of the women speak any Spanish and the convoluted legal system in Peru is often complex for those well versed in the law," our correspondent said. "However, at least in the short term, it is a situation they are going to have to adapt to as the Peruvian authorities are likely to take several months before the trial reaches court," he said. 'Pretty grim' Meanwhile, Mr Madden criticised the conditions the women were being kept in, saying they had not been fed all day on Tuesday. He said Ms McCollum's brother Sean had not been allowed to see her, although the lawyer and an accompanying priest had. Both women say they were forced to carry the bags Mr Madden said: "The conditions inside the holding cells are pretty grim. "They are expected to lie on the floor, there's a sort of a sponge-type bed which is just not acceptable. There are no blankets - it's not clean. "And the most important thing is they haven't actually been offered any food today and it doesn't look as though they are going to be." Ms McCollum and Ms Reid are accused of trying to smuggle 11kg (24lb) of cocaine out of Peru in food packages in their luggage. The pair were stopped while trying to board a flight to Madrid two weeks ago. Both women say they were forcibly recruited as drug mules by an armed gang while working in bars on the Spanish island of Ibiza, and travelled to Peru under duress. Drug trafficking in Peru carries an average sentence of eight to nine years in prison, but there are harsher sentences for being part of a criminal organisation. The women could face up to three years in jail before trial if they are refused bail. Anyone else think these ladies are perhaps not the criminal masterminds they're being portrayed as? They may have been complicit in the crime, they may have been coerced and threatened. I dunno about that bit, but I do find it a little far fetched that 2, 20 year old British girls would alone have the connections to buy £1.5 million worth of cocaine. Neither of them speak Spanish...and it seems the Peruvian authorities are willing to use them as scapegoats without chasing the people really behind this. Madness. I read THIS book a few weeks ago on holiday. Trashy indeed, but it tells a very similar story. Girls going to Spain to live a party lifestyle who then get absorbed into a seedy and nasty drug culture and end up being manipulated by nasty bastards. I'm of entirely the opposite opinion Pompey. The £1.5m I would imagine is the UK street value, i.e. what ever they were carrying was worth after it has been cut many many times by dealers. The actual value of what they had in Peru is probably many many times less than £1.5m. Is it their drugs? No of course not.... but I believe that they knew entirely what they were up to. The have given the standard "caught with drugs in a foreign country" excuse "It wasn't me guv, someone made me do it" and strangely they managed to get from Ibiza to Peru without alerting anyone to the fact that they weren't exactly happy to be there? The only reason this case is getting attention is because there are two young, white, British, not unattractive women getting nicked in a foreign country. Any other ethnicity/background and the media would have already condemned them as guilty. No sympathy I'm afraid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Anyway... in today's news. Peru drugs: UK pair charged with drug offences Two women from the UK arrested in Peru on suspicion of drug smuggling have been charged and face a maximum sentence of 15 years if convicted. Michaella McCollum, of Dungannon in Northern Ireland, and Melissa Reid, of Lenzie near Glasgow, are accused of trying to smuggle cocaine with a street value of £1.5m out of the country. Ms McCollum's lawyer Peter Madden said both women would plead not guilty. It is likely the pair will be transferred to prison to await trial. 'Full glare' The women, both 20, have spent the last two weeks in custody over the drug trafficking allegations. They were taken from their holding cells on Tuesday and transferred by police escort to the neighbouring province of Callao, which has jurisdiction over their case. The case has attracted intense media interest The women were given a brief medical examination before being taken to the public prosecutor's office where they gave full statements. They spent the night in cells at the courthouse awaiting a judge's decision. The BBC's Will Grant, in Peru, said this came several hours later than expected. "The charges came at the end of a difficult day for the two, who had spent two weeks inside a police cell in Lima without charge," he said. "When the women were eventually moved to the courthouse in Callao, it was under the full glare of the local and international media." Melissa Reid's father and brother have flown out to Peru "Neither of the women speak any Spanish and the convoluted legal system in Peru is often complex for those well versed in the law," our correspondent said. "However, at least in the short term, it is a situation they are going to have to adapt to as the Peruvian authorities are likely to take several months before the trial reaches court," he said. 'Pretty grim' Meanwhile, Mr Madden criticised the conditions the women were being kept in, saying they had not been fed all day on Tuesday. He said Ms McCollum's brother Sean had not been allowed to see her, although the lawyer and an accompanying priest had. Both women say they were forced to carry the bags Mr Madden said: "The conditions inside the holding cells are pretty grim. "They are expected to lie on the floor, there's a sort of a sponge-type bed which is just not acceptable. There are no blankets - it's not clean. "And the most important thing is they haven't actually been offered any food today and it doesn't look as though they are going to be." Ms McCollum and Ms Reid are accused of trying to smuggle 11kg (24lb) of cocaine out of Peru in food packages in their luggage. The pair were stopped while trying to board a flight to Madrid two weeks ago. Both women say they were forcibly recruited as drug mules by an armed gang while working in bars on the Spanish island of Ibiza, and travelled to Peru under duress. Drug trafficking in Peru carries an average sentence of eight to nine years in prison, but there are harsher sentences for being part of a criminal organisation. The women could face up to three years in jail before trial if they are refused bail. Anyone else think these ladies are perhaps not the criminal masterminds they're being portrayed as? They may have been complicit in the crime, they may have been coerced and threatened. I dunno about that bit, but I do find it a little far fetched that 2, 20 year old British girls would alone have the connections to buy £1.5 million worth of cocaine. Neither of them speak Spanish...and it seems the Peruvian authorities are willing to use them as scapegoats without chasing the people really behind this. Madness. I read THIS book a few weeks ago on holiday. Trashy indeed, but it tells a very similar story. Girls going to Spain to live a party lifestyle who then get absorbed into a seedy and nasty drug culture and end up being manipulated by nasty bastards. Is anybody suggesting they are crinimal masterminds who have sourced £1.5m of charlie? I think it is either their story - We were forced from Spain to Peru at gun point and told to carry the drugs or another story - they somehow got involved with some drug dealers in Spain and were tempted to carry them through customs by the lure of a big payday. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 What the hell is on top of lady's head? Should be given 10 years just for that haircut. She's got her last kilo of coke hidden up there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 It's Minnie Mouse .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I think they got in a bit of debt with a dealer and needed to make a quick buck. The lawyer denied it but that seems to be the word on the grapevine. In which case, they have no one to blame but themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnie Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 (edited) I love the comments from the readers on the daily mail website on this. 'Ooo where did she get her jacket from? ' 'what is going on with her hair.. She going to have to replace her bun on her head with a loaf of bread' Edited August 21, 2013 by donnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meath_Villan Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 What's the situation? She blows a couple of guys, one gets his hands in the till. Pictures on the web, parents find out, she's only 17, she's upset?That and the fact that (as I expected might happen) she's now suicidal and has seemingly been put into an induced coma to protect her. That's the disproportionate fallout from what was; in the grand scheme of things; a fairly innocuous event that probably goes on all the time at venues like that and which can now literally ruin someone's life. She might be a slag but she doesn't deserve that. Dunno about the coma bri its more like cops waiting till drugs have cleared her system before a statement been taken ....a video popped up last night of 3 guys passing the parcel so to speak ......the girl and family may as well emigrate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 So is it confirmed she was high on drugs/alcohol? I suspected there may be a video with so many people about. I wondered (not in a pervy way) how this situation came about, did she just leap on the guys as they left the lavvies or was money changing hands?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted August 21, 2013 Moderator Share Posted August 21, 2013 There's very little confirmed. They're understandably treating this one very sensitively and we'll no doubt find out more in the coming days. I just hope their main priority and focus is on helping her psychologically now, rather than trying to pointlessly scapegoat blokes who were no more complicit than her in what was an act that would otherwise be legal in private and was only illegal by virtue of being in public. So in other words it's a public indecency charge (by everyone involved) and that should be the end of it assuming the reported age of 17 is true (i.e. legal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meath_Villan Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 There's very little confirmed. They're understandably treating this one very sensitively and we'll no doubt find out more in the coming days. I just hope their main priority and focus is on helping her psychologically now, rather than trying to pointlessly scapegoat blokes who were no more complicit than her in what was an act that would otherwise be legal in private and was only illegal by virtue of being in public. So in other words it's a public indecency charge (by everyone involved) and that should be the end of it assuming the reported age of 17 is true (i.e. legal). Agreed ...cant help but feel the government will use this to push through some more laws on internet use as well with the likes of facebook and twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 There's very little confirmed. They're understandably treating this one very sensitively and we'll no doubt find out more in the coming days. I just hope their main priority and focus is on helping her psychologically now, rather than trying to pointlessly scapegoat blokes who were no more complicit than her in what was an act that would otherwise be legal in private and was only illegal by virtue of being in public. So in other words it's a public indecency charge (by everyone involved) and that should be the end of it assuming the reported age of 17 is true (i.e. legal).Agreed ...cant help but feel the government will use this to push through some more laws on internet use as well with the likes of facebook and twitterA bit like their plans for blocking porn, they should be focussing their attention on better parenting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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