maqroll Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Good work, Rev...nonetheless, massive pressure on AVB already, and in my opinion, he seems to have a bit of a problem with winning the dressing room...My prediction is he's sacked by the New Year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 What the hell happened to Bentley, anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarpie Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 He was good in Blackburn, Tottenham bought him and he was shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMFy Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 What the hell happened to Bentley, anyway? Possibly the big fish/small pond scenario at Blackburn where he shone in a team that was never destined to do too much. He moved to London to a bigger club at the same time his technique was being sussed. A number of players have looked brilliant over the years, only for it all to fall apart when they move to a bigger club. Steve Sidwell at Chelsea for one - he should have either stayed with Reading or moved to a club where he was likely to play some football. The same can be said for the younger players signing for big clubs, like the way Citeh seem to hoover them up from their rivals. Promising players that never get to play competitive football, then either lose their will/interest or simply aren't good enough to oust the foreign international the club bought to 'assist with their development'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarpie Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I do wonder if younger players have learned from the mistakes of the likes as Francis Jeffers that they shouldn't move into big club straightaway, but they probably think they're gonna be like Wayne Rooney who gets to play instantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Yeah I think most of them are arrogant/confident enough to think they're good enough to play anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Moses and Sinclair could easily go the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 5, 2012 Moderator Share Posted September 5, 2012 I do wonder if younger players have learned from the mistakes of the likes as Francis Jeffers that they shouldn't move into big club straightaway, but they probably think they're gonna be like Wayne Rooney who gets to play instantly. Franny Jeffers didn't regret the move one bit. He got injured with the recurrence of a previous injury which he knew was always on the cards, he went to increase his wages and Everton knew about the injury. Oh and Everton only got £1mil for him, the rest of the £10mil supposed fee was in add-ons based on appearances. Arsenal gambled on his fitness and Everton suspected he was a crock so gladly let him go, the player suspected he was a crock too. He got a bigger pay off from Arsenal than he would have from Everton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarpie Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I do wonder if younger players have learned from the mistakes of the likes as Francis Jeffers that they shouldn't move into big club straightaway, but they probably think they're gonna be like Wayne Rooney who gets to play instantly. Franny Jeffers didn't regret the move one bit. He got injured with the recurrence of a previous injury which he knew was always on the cards, he went to increase his wages and Everton knew about the injury. Oh and Everton only got £1mil for him, the rest of the £10mil supposed fee was in add-ons based on appearances. Arsenal gambled on his fitness and Everton suspected he was a crock so gladly let him go, the player suspected he was a crock too. He got a bigger pay off from Arsenal than he would have from Everton Ah, I didnt know that. I take it that injuries ruined his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 5, 2012 Moderator Share Posted September 5, 2012 I do wonder if younger players have learned from the mistakes of the likes as Francis Jeffers that they shouldn't move into big club straightaway, but they probably think they're gonna be like Wayne Rooney who gets to play instantly. Franny Jeffers didn't regret the move one bit. He got injured with the recurrence of a previous injury which he knew was always on the cards, he went to increase his wages and Everton knew about the injury. Oh and Everton only got £1mil for him, the rest of the £10mil supposed fee was in add-ons based on appearances. Arsenal gambled on his fitness and Everton suspected he was a crock so gladly let him go, the player suspected he was a crock too. He got a bigger pay off from Arsenal than he would have from Everton Ah, I didnt know that. I take it that injuries ruined his career. Well sort of, he was never the same again after that injury, he'd already lost his place in the first team to Henry but he was never the same player after it. He still plays today (currently training with Tranmere whilst looking for a new club), he's only 32ish but I think he's one of the few England One Cap Wonders that actually has a goal to their name too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 What the hell happened to Bentley, anyway? Possibly the big fish/small pond scenario at Blackburn where he shone in a team that was never destined to do too much. He moved to London to a bigger club at the same time his technique was being sussed. A number of players have looked brilliant over the years, only for it all to fall apart when they move to a bigger club. Steve Sidwell at Chelsea for one - he should have either stayed with Reading or moved to a club where he was likely to play some football. The same can be said for the younger players signing for big clubs, like the way Citeh seem to hoover them up from their rivals. Promising players that never get to play competitive football, then either lose their will/interest or simply aren't good enough to oust the foreign international the club bought to 'assist with their development'... Well both Bentley and Sidwell came through at Arsenal so I presume they had some experience of how things work at a 'big club'. I guess they both figured they had dropped down to smaller clubs and done their time then earned their chance to go back to a bigger club again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I think Steve Claridge is a very very good pundit. That bloke talks a lot of sense, calls it as it is and is full of common sense. Dion Dublin is good too and I also have a lot of time for Souness when he's on. Sky seem to go for the bad boys for some reason - Merse, Charlie, Besty, Marsh. Frank Mclintock was ok but seems to have retired ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 6, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted September 6, 2012 I quite like the MOTD panel, Lineker, Hanson, Lawro, Shearer all generally call it fairly. & I like the different comic book approach to MOTD2 it's a good blend. You change your mind a lot don't you? In another thread you were absolutely slating Lineker if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 The Olympics ? I don't agree Lineker should have got that gig. And I'm glad they dropped him off the golf too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Only pundit i really find poor is our dion tbh. Terrible punditry. a few snodyne types like ' arry who just total cliches too but dion always seem to speak nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Only pundit i really find poor is our dion tbh. Terrible punditry. a few snodyne types like ' arry who just total cliches too but dion always seem to speak nonsense What is terrible about Dions punditry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Only pundit i really find poor is our dion tbh. Terrible punditry. a few snodyne types like ' arry who just total cliches too but dion always seem to speak nonsense Say that to his face i dare you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 He's better than Savage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowandlow Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 worst 'headbutt' ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 wasnt really a headbutt just a fairy was on the end of it and made a meal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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