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VillaTalk Political Temperature (Early 2024)

Marka Ragnos

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VillaTalk Political Temperature (Early 2024)  

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  1. 1. Where do you actually see yourself politically?

    • Extreme Left
      1
    • Very Left
      12
    • Left
      24
    • A Little To The Left
      17
    • Center
      12
    • A Little To The Right
      6
    • Right
      3
    • Very Right
      0
    • Extreme Right
      0

  2. 2. How do you usually present yourself politically?

    • Extreme Left
      0
    • Very Left
      7
    • Left
      27
    • A Little To The Left
      20
    • Center
      15
    • A Little To The Right
      5
    • Right
      1
    • Very Right
      0
    • Extreme Right
      0

  3. 3. What Issues Concern You Most in Early 2024 (Multiple Choice)?

    • The Economy (generally and/or "kitchen table" issues such as the price of milk, utilities, etc.)
      43
    • International Relations
      24
    • Public Safety and Crime
      21
    • Public Health
      35
    • Protecting Democracy
      25
    • Diversity & Inclusiveness
      13
    • Infrastructure Modernisation or Maintainance (roads, bridges, flood control, public technology such as wifi)
      22
    • Environment and Climate
      40
    • Public Education
      26
    • Women's Equity Issues
      5
    • Immigration Issues
      8
    • Technology Issues (regulation, access, privacy, etc.)
      8
    • Other (please name below)
      5

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Panto_Villan Veteran

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40 minutes ago, Marka Ragnos said:

That's definitely the view of the people behind the Political Compass. But I don't think it's widely shared among the hoi polloi, but maybe it's different in Europe? I feel like perceived nationalism and "nanny-statism" deeply inflect and warp our concepts of left and right, rather than relating with the perfect perpendicularity of the Political Compass. Don't get me wrong. I like that tool. I just think political reality is super complicated and it's hard to communicate it. 

Yeah. When discussing politics casually an awful lot of different axes get compressed into a single left / right line. Those things you mention are a big part of political identity in Europe too.

I was under the impression support for capitalism and free markets vs socialism and communism was the original genesis of the left / right spectrum, but it’s a bit tangential to the discussion anyway.

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fruitvilla Veteran

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4 hours ago, Marka Ragnos said:

If you indicate strong support for deregulation and the free market, you're going to get bumped quite far towards the right, even if some of your social views are very left of centre. 

It's not the Wes Edens axis that bothers me too much but more the Nassef Sawiris axis. the WE axis is how much of your (and your neighbour's) money we are willing to spend for the common good vs the common good coming from working hard and smartly.

The NS axis is how much government we want in our everyday lives.

But of course, we do need to take the Political Compass with a bit of salt. I suspect the relative positions do reflect reality somewhat. If we were on an evangelical website there likely be more positive scores

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1 hour ago, HongKongVillan said:

 

Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.67

Thought I was a little to the right in all, but seems like I'm wrong about myself

 

You probably are if you go by the people on this forum. There are communities where you would be a Bolshie

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bickster Grand Master

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24 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said:

Centrism is not the centre.

 

It’s a media construct. It’s meaningless just as a linear left right axis is a simpletons guide to political thought. Even that x/y axis political compass thing is daft because the questions are extremely slanted

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2 minutes ago, bickster said:

It’s a media construct. It’s meaningless just as a linear left right axis is a simpletons guide to political thought. Even that x/y axis political compass thing is daft because the questions are extremely slanted

From their FAQ

Some of the questions are slanted

Most of them are slanted! Some right-wingers accuse us of a leftward slant. Some left-wingers accuse us of a rightward slant. But it’s important to realise that this isn’t a survey, and these aren’t questions. They’re propositions — an altogether different proposition. To question the logic of individual ones that irritate you is to miss the point. Some propositions are extreme, and some are more moderate. That’s how we can show you whether you lean towards extremism or moderation on the Compass.

The propositions should not be overthought. Some of them are intentionally vague. Their purpose is to trigger reactions in the mind, measuring feelings and prejudices rather than detailed opinions on policy.

Incidentally, our test is not another internet personality classification tool. The essence of our site is the model for political analysis. The test is simply a demonstration of it.

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bickster Grand Master

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1 minute ago, fruitvilla said:

From their FAQ

Some of the questions are slanted

Most of them are slanted! Some right-wingers accuse us of a leftward slant. Some left-wingers accuse us of a rightward slant. But it’s important to realise that this isn’t a survey, and these aren’t questions. They’re propositions — an altogether different proposition. To question the logic of individual ones that irritate you is to miss the point. Some propositions are extreme, and some are more moderate. That’s how we can show you whether you lean towards extremism or moderation on the Compass.

The propositions should not be overthought. Some of them are intentionally vague. Their purpose is to trigger reactions in the mind, measuring feelings and prejudices rather than detailed opinions on policy.

Incidentally, our test is not another internet personality classification tool. The essence of our site is the model for political analysis. The test is simply a demonstration of it.

Yes I know, it’s a stupid premise regardless

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bobzy Grand Master

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I couldn't be on VT if I wasn't a bloomin' leftie.

I also find it interesting the gap so wide between those who care about the economy more so than inclusiveness.

 

The World is pretty shit.

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blandy Grand Master

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32 minutes ago, bickster said:

I think it’s nonsense

Maybe, but whether it’s this one, or one of the various other ones, I always end up in the same, bottom left corner

Economic Left/Right: -7.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.69

What it actually means, though is a bit unclear in the big scheme of things.

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