Wainy316 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, Captain_Townsend said: We have been waiting 40 years. Makes more sense to go for CL now, establish that as our status and then watch us pick up the cups in the years that follow. That's probably what Spurs fans thought too 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Well Spurs have had a much better 10- 11 years than we have had. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 8 hours ago, MrBlack said: Conference league this year. Europa league next year (via 4th place finish this season getting us in to the champions league, finishing third in the group, then winning the Europa league after dropping in to it) Then Champions league the year after that. Exactly. Route map for European domination. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 I’d take the money of CL football over the “moment” lifting a trophy is nice for us fans, but the potential security and riches being a CL team is a much bigger springboard to being an elite club 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Waring Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Playing in the CL and getting top 4 gets way way way more respect than winning a FA CUP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaVilla Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 52 minutes ago, skarroki said: I dunno your question seems a lot more loaded. It makes it sound like you only want people to pick top 4/5. It’s not a loaded question if it’s an accurate representation of what’s going to happen if we don’t make champions league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 We're going to get CL this season from winning the title. This hasn't been mentioned. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 I’ll take the greatest cup competition in the world thanks, and it ain’t the so called champions league. Waited for most of my life to see us win the FA Cup. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted December 1, 2023 Moderator Share Posted December 1, 2023 It is a tricky one. It's between FA Cup & CL qualification. I went with CL qualification, because you won't get that good an opportunity every year and it could propel you to the next level, whereupon FA Cups become a possibility every year. We need to grab this year. The likes of United, Newcastle, Chelsea, Spurs are vulnerable all at the same time. That won't always be the case. I know it's not silverware, but in terms of the bigger picture, this could be the start of a regular silverware cycle, or certainly put us in a position to do that if all goes well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddywhack Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 10 hours ago, ThunderPower_14 said: If we'd won a trophy in recent memory i'd be voting for CL qualification, but we just have to hoist a trophy. It's been far too long. Yeah, this for me. I was 8 when we won the league cup in 1996. It's the only thing I can remember us winning and I'm slowly approaching 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: We're going to get CL this season from winning the title. This hasn't been mentioned. I did think it but didn't post it. At what point t do we seriously start to ask the question should we concentrate on a title charge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Conference League it’s global recognition and a platform to build on for consistent European success. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted December 1, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Captain_Townsend said: I did think it but didn't post it. At what point t do we seriously start to ask the question should we concentrate on a title charge? Nobody's taking us seriously for that. But then nobody took Leicester seriously, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted December 1, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 1, 2023 Just now, gwi1890 said: Conference League it’s global recognition You're joking, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Just now, mjmooney said: You're joking, right? There’s more eyes one the conference league than the FA cup these days. If the likes of Spurs didn’t share your dismissive opinion they might have won it and started a platform towards European success . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaVilla Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, gwi1890 said: Conference League it’s global recognition and a platform to build on for consistent European success. No one cares about the conference if we’re absolutely honest. It’s the league cup of European trophies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sam-AVFC Posted December 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) Some people need to realise their opinions aren't infallible, or they might as well just discuss football with themselves in a mirror. Sure, CL qualification could give us a platform to move on, but there are plenty of examples to suggest it wont. It didn't do anything for Everton. It didn't do anything for Leicester. Their title came before qualifying. It didn't bring success for Tottenham. Their one league cup in my lifetime came before they were regularly qualifying. That's not to say that wanting the CL qualification is ludicrous, stupid or obviously "wrong". It's just someone else's preference, based on a hope (or in some cases assumption) that it gives us sustained success. I can understand why when football has become a spreadsheet game for many, both in terms of FFP and stats. Personally, I think I'd get more enjoyment being at/outside of Wembley for us winning a cup. Edited December 1, 2023 by Sam-AVFC 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Nobody's taking us seriously for that. But then nobody took Leicester seriously, either. It is definitely an outside bet. But we have been demonstrating top 3 form for 12 whole months and across 38 games. Win another 14-15 games and we would be in the mix you would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Getting CL money and signing players we'd be unable to sign if not in the CL means we'd be more competitive in all competitions going forward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) In response to Sam above: My point is we won two trophies in the 90s. For me, personally, seeing us play in the Top Club competition would be a remarkable achievement. It would mean we were a top four club in the league for a start and would be serious novelty to see CL games and hear CL music at Villa Park. It would be amazing, even if just for one season! We would be visible in a whole new sphere Look we almost won a League Cup in 2020 and got to an FA Cup final in 2015. Had we won either of those I would still consider the 2010s, overall to be a crap decade , as we were always fighting relegation/chasing promotion Does this make sense? Edited December 1, 2023 by Captain_Townsend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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