High Line ..Pros and Cons

[Brumstopdogs]

 

[jimmygreaves]

41 minutes ago, Brumstopdogs said:

 

So ostensibly, they're getting rid of the offside rule.

[Kingman]

Should revert back to clear daylight between the players 

[tinker]

With the pace we have up front this may play into our hands, defensively we will have to adapt and get more pace in one of the full back positions. 

Whichever way it goes Emery, and our squad over the last 12 months,  have shown they are more than capable of changing the way we play. 

[Follyfoot]

2 hours ago, tinker said:

With the pace we have up front this may play into our hands, defensively we will have to adapt and get more pace in one of the full back positions. 

Whichever way it goes Emery, and our squad over the last 12 months,  have shown they are more than capable of changing the way we play. 

He probably already been working on it in his mind and journal and has it 85% nailed

[Adam2003]

21 hours ago, jimmygreaves said:

So ostensibly, they're getting rid of the offside rule.

No, this is just back to “daylight” like a few years ago isn’t it?

[MotoMkali]

4 hours ago, Kingman said:

Should revert back to clear daylight between the players 

That just changes where the judgement point is made and more importantly econrages teams to play lower blocks which is awful for the game. 

[jimmygreaves]

1 hour ago, Adam2003 said:

No, this is just back to “daylight” like a few years ago isn’t it?

There wasn't var back then..... Nobody involved meaningfully iin the play will be given offside.

[Oaks]

Pros - We win lots of games.

Cons - Too many VAR checks 

[alreadyexists]

 

 

An interesting take on it all…

[MWARLEY2]

35 minutes ago, alreadyexists said:

 

 

An interesting take on it all…

So we understand how to hold a line both offensively and defensively better than everyone else.  Thats coaching for you. 

[Stevo985]

On 19/11/2023 at 10:07, Kingman said:

Should revert back to clear daylight between the players 

That's basically what this is

 

[Stevo985]

On 18/11/2023 at 15:26, Brumstopdogs said:

 

The stupidest update to the rule of all time. Takes a problem and moves it back a foot and a half

[sharkyvilla]

I think that's a much better rule than ruling goals out because someone's shoulder is sticking out.  Pretty sure football before VAR was always refereed like that.

[TomC]

5 minutes ago, Stevo985 said:

The stupidest update to the rule of all time. Takes a problem and moves it back a foot and a half

Exactly. As I've said before, the best way to simplify the rule is to judge it based only on foot position.

[TomC]

1 hour ago, alreadyexists said:

 

 

An interesting take on it all…

If you have a subscription to the Athletic, the article is definitely worth the time to read.

The bottom line is that we don't run a particularly high line. Not only, as quoted above, is our line's average position the 7th lowest in general, but our average position is the 6th lowest when the flag goes up. It just seems that we run a high line because we're so good at moving up at the right time. Tanswell goes through various triggers that time when we move up.

Another subtlety that I had never noticed...our defenders are almost always turned sideways when running the trap so that they only have to turn 90 degrees if the ball gets behind them, but also only have to turn 90 degrees if they need to move up. He gave one example of a goal we conceded on a through ball where both Cash and Konsa got caught facing forward and had to turn 180 degrees to recover, giving the attacker the extra jump he needed to get clear to score.

Tanswell is a good observer of tactics. I enjoy his articles.

EDIT: Forgot to mention...Emi is in the top 1% of goalkeepers in the so-called Big 5 European leagues for the number of defensive actions outside his penalty area. That confirms the obvious...he's a big part of what makes our trap work.

 

Edited November 23, 2023 by TomC

[JPJCB]

6 hours ago, TomC said:

If you have a subscription to the Athletic, the article is definitely worth the time to read.

The bottom line is that we don't run a particularly high line. Not only, as quoted above, is our line's average position the 7th lowest in general, but our average position is the 6th lowest when the flag goes up. It just seems that we run a high line because we're so good at moving up at the right time. Tanswell goes through various triggers that time when we move up.

Another subtlety that I had never noticed...our defenders are almost always turned sideways when running the trap so that they only have to turn 90 degrees if the ball gets behind them, but also only have to turn 90 degrees if they need to move up. He gave one example of a goal we conceded on a through ball where both Cash and Konsa got caught facing forward and had to turn 180 degrees to recover, giving the attacker the extra jump he needed to get clear to score.

Tanswell is a good observer of tactics. I enjoy his articles.

EDIT: Forgot to mention...Emi is in the top 1% of goalkeepers in the so-called Big 5 European leagues for the number of defensive actions outside his penalty area. That confirms the obvious...he's a big part of what makes our trap work.

 

The Gregg Evans- Jacob Tanswell upgrade was the best Villa related transfer of the summer 

[Stevo985]

11 hours ago, JPJCB said:

The Gregg Evans- Jacob Tanswell upgrade was the best Villa related transfer of the summer 

Yep. And people really believed Gregg had been promoted   

[Vive_La_Villa]

That rule should make it simpler to make decisions but it’s a pretty big change to how the game is played and will take time for teams to adapt. It will also make teams sit deeper leading to tighter less entertaining games. It’s not a good move. 

[Kiwivillan]

12 hours ago, JPJCB said:

The Gregg Evans- Jacob Tanswell upgrade was the best Villa related transfer of the summer 

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