Jonesy7211 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 32 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Although Osborne still has some public influence, I'm not sure anyone's going out of their way to whip up a scandal like this to save his arse, he's surely not got that kind of credit in the bank? If he was still in government I'd be more open to the idea, but I don't buy it. Him and Cameron are the fathers of austerity and are as much to blame for the state of the public services as the more recent Tory shower. Casting doubts on his character also casts doubt over his judgement, and the decisions they made. Imho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: I know it's not illegal or anything, but I really can't understand why not many on here are even condemning it. certainly if someone on here, say over the age of 50 for example, said, they did the same thing, obviously for less money or gifts, it would be a totally out of order. Have you ever looked at porn featuring adult women a fair bit younger than you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 12, 2023 Moderator Share Posted July 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: I know it's not illegal or anything, but I really can't understand why not many on here are even condemning it. certainly if someone on here, say over the age of 50 for example, said, they did the same thing, obviously for less money or gifts, it would be a totally out of order. We’ve had confessions of far worse on here 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 12, 2023 Moderator Share Posted July 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Jonesy7211 said: Him and Cameron are the fathers of austerity and are as much to blame for the state of the public services as the more recent Tory shower. Casting doubts on his character also casts doubt over his judgement, and the decisions they made. Imho. This was always about Murdoch vs the BBC. Johnson and Osborne are mere pawns in Murdoch’s game, expendable and of no real importance, not only that but both are really agents of media rivals and not Murdoch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) I'd have a fairly low opinion of someone who went out of their way to specifically look for "barely legal" porn or something along those lines, it's legal but properly grim to (as a significantly older person) deliberately seek out content for people just over the bare minimum legal age. Yet I have very little doubt that at some point in recent years I've probably inadvertently waxed my carrot to someone who happens to be around the same age, because sometimes it's not too easy to distinguish an 18 year old from a 25 year old, and I don't often feel the need to do my own due diligence when it comes to the age of porn stars. We don't really know what happened, what he did, or what he knew when he did something, so what is there to really condemn? Edited July 12, 2023 by Davkaus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, KentVillan said: Have you ever looked at porn featuring adult women a fair bit younger than you? It's just the position he's in really. One of the faces of the BBC and all that. It's different but James Manford lost his presenting job on the One show years back for texting: Jason Manford quits BBC's One Show | BBC | The Guardian Quote Jason Manford has quit BBC1's The One Show after admitting that he shared sexual messages online with female fans. It is only three months since the stand-up comic took over the show with co-host Alex Jones after the departure of former presenters Adrian Chiles and Christine Bleakley to ITV. "Unwise but not illegal" etc but he was never going to continue fronting a family tea time show was he as optics wouldn't have looked good. Same when similar story crops up on news at ten, ideally you'd want a presenter asking following up questions who's never been accused of any of it, it's not a gameshow type situation when you can just laugh it off. Have the BBC completely dismissed the allegations against him from within their own organisation? I think another issue is the drip drip effect. Certainly not going to land him in court anytime soon but no chance they can risk putting him back on air anytime soon, not least due to the fragility of his mental health currently. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Reminds me of Stephen Sackur interviewing Mia Khalifa on Hardtalk (lol!) At one point she turns fire on him asking if he’s ever watched porn… the look on his face 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted July 12, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 12, 2023 the sun running a mile knowing they've **** up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sne Posted July 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2023 Mmmm moral maize 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted July 12, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 12, 2023 Old Hew is no Angus Deayton that’s for sure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 45 minutes ago, KentVillan said: Have you ever looked at porn featuring adult women a fair bit younger than you? But he didn't do this. He paid for it, which is what I'm saying. Would you meet someone 18ish, find out who they are and offer them money for a nude pic? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 24 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: But he didn't do this. He paid for it, which is what I'm saying. Would you meet someone 18ish, find out who they are and offer them money for a nude pic? I wouldn’t personally because I’m not into 18 year olds or into sending money to people for nudes, but I’m not sure it’s ethically much different from just looking at porn… especially if it’s on some kind of paid platform (eg OnlyFans or similar). I agree it’s odd / unwise / seedy behaviour. Does it cross the threshold into being something we should all be up in arms about… not for me, but I get why people are uncomfortable with the age thing and the fact he’s married with kids. I still don’t think it remotely merits what has happened to him these last few days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeVillan Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 1 hour ago, tomav84 said: the sun running a mile knowing they've **** up Hardly, both parents came to them with a story nobody would turn down. Reporting it isn't the issue here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, TreeVillan said: Hardly, both parents came to them with a story nobody would turn down. Reporting it isn't the issue here. Err that’s not how it works. Journos are supposed to try and corroborate secondhand accounts. You can’t just splash hearsay. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 I think the main thing to come out of this is that Jeremy Vine is a grade-one rocket polisher. And his brother still tells shit jokes/ 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post desensitized43 Posted July 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2023 6 hours ago, TreeVillan said: Hardly, both parents came to them with a story nobody would turn down. Reporting it isn't the issue here. Did you even read their original article? Normally for something like this you’d have 5 or 6 pages of “exclusive” commentary. This was less than a page. Why is that? They referenced evidence they didn’t have and this couldn’t publish, they chose not to print the name but instead decided to have a days long “who shot JR” style mystery dragging it out purely to disguise their own lack of corroborating evidence and lack of confidence (and balls) to name him. It wasn't journalism. It was an assassination of one of the most recognisable names at the BBC mainly because they wanted to damage the corporation for ideological reasons. If Huw Edwards takes his own life now it’s on them. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted July 13, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 13, 2023 9 hours ago, KentVillan said: Have you ever looked at porn featuring adult women a fair bit younger than you? 9 hours ago, foreveryoung said: But he didn't do this. He paid for it, which is what I'm saying. Would you meet someone 18ish, find out who they are and offer them money for a nude pic? That wasn't a no. Your post kinda reads like looking at it is fine, but paying for it isn't? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieGriffin Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 7 hours ago, The Fun Factory said: And his brother still tells shit jokes/ Possibly one of the most offensive things I've ever read on here. How dare you. How bloody dare you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 11 hours ago, foreveryoung said: But he didn't do this. He paid for it, which is what I'm saying. Would you meet someone 18ish, find out who they are and offer them money for a nude pic? So it's not OK for 50/60 year old men to buy porn or subscribe to an Only Fans account? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 12 hours ago, KentVillan said: Have you ever looked at porn featuring adult women a fair bit younger than you? This could possibly be untrue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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