HalfTimePost Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Has he signed anybody yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MaVilla Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, Woody1000 said: thats the 3 kings (or 3 wise men) parade isnt it, celebrating the 3 wise men giving gifts to jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 3 hours ago, villarule123 said: I'm sure he can pay for it now with the big payrise we're giving him. I'd prefer if he didn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 4 hours ago, Tomaszk said: God forbid Madrid or someone comes in for Emery. Vidagany would definitely go with him. Presume by giving Monchi such a senior role, reporting to the owners, the hope is that he'd stay. We're his club now. Florentino has too much control for emery to go to Madrid I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rolta Posted June 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Woody1000 said: On Friday nights here in Spain there's a TV show called Tu Cara Me Suena. Your face reminds me of something. It's a primetime family show, basically stars in their eyes, and in it any white contestant doing a song by a black singer blacks up. I was shocked when I saw it. I talked to my students about it, very open minded and very liberal students, and they didn't see why I would think it was a problem. I make no excuses as it's cringeworthy to the max, and I don't think I've heard as much casual racism anywhere as I have in Spain, but they have very different parameters than we do. I explained it away as something like this: while countries like the UK modernised and became used to the idea that blackface was embarrassing, Spain were still living under a 50ish year dictatorship and were mono-cultural. I've lived here for eight years and I'm often so shocked how naive this place is. The shockwaves of the dictatorship are abundant. Spanish people live in a world of their own, as we all do I guess, but they happen to have some real big in your face dubious habits. Edited June 17, 2023 by Rolta 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody1000 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 26 minutes ago, MaVilla said: thats the 3 kings (or 3 wise men) parade isnt it, celebrating the 3 wise men giving gifts to jesus. Yes mate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kiwivillan Posted June 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2023 47 minutes ago, MaVilla said: thats the 3 kings (or 3 wise men) parade isnt it, celebrating the 3 wise men giving gifts to jesus. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) Blimey we are handing out some big titles. I guess the bin men will be Technical refuse consultants, soon. Edited June 17, 2023 by TRO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted June 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Woody1000 said: This is going to be blown up astronomically by people who are desperate to win " the wokest warrior " awards isn't it? Context, nuance and intent still matters. You can frame anything to look how we want it to ffs. I get everything is alot more sensitive now and he may need a heads up on why this probably won't fly but Jesus man. People need to chill out... I highly doubt we've hired a KKK Grand Wizard as our Football Director. Edited June 17, 2023 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 19 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody1000 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: This is going to be blown up astronomically by people who are desperate to win " the wokest warrior " awards isn't it? Context, nuance and intent still matters. You can frame anything to look how we want it to ffs. I get everything is alot more sensitive now and he may need a heads up on why this probably won't fly but Jesus man. People need to chill out... I highly doubt we've hired a KKK Grand Wizard as our Football Director. It’s such a difficult subject for me as a white man, the last thing I would want to do is to tell any person of colour how they should feel about it. The problem I find these days, and it’s not just when it comes to race, is how a lot of people are desperate almost to be offended on behalf of someone else. The best thing that can be done imo is an apology, and removal of the picture from Monchi’s social media. While the intentions might not have been bad, you’re just not going to justify blackface here in the UK in 2023. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Off to a good start then 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 This was already in the news a few years ago. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/spain-blackface-three-kings-balthasar-b1984515.html Quote Despite outrage, Spaniards prepare to wear blackface for annual Three Kings parade “Earlier this month the mayor of Seville, Juan Espadas, announced that Seville FC director Ramon Rodriguez Verdejo (known as Monchi) would be donning Balthasar’s opulent robes in next week’s Kings Day Parade. As controversial as this may be, Verdejo is far from the first member of Spain’s football association to take on the controversial role.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy54 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 4 hours ago, TRO said: Blimey we are handing out some big titles. I guess the bin men will be Technical refuse consultants, soon. Where I work there are people who have job titles that I have no idea what they mean....or do. What the hell is a "senior vertical strategy manager" ?...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted June 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 17, 2023 Lolz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted June 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, alreadyexists said: Lolz A lot of clubs are looking at us enviously these days and it's great. It's about time we restored ourselves above Spurs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 6 hours ago, Woody1000 said: This twerp has obviously been sat on this waiting to post as soon as he was appointed. Yawn. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 **** me it didn't take long for someone to find something to moan about 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted June 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: This twerp has obviously been sat on this waiting to post as soon as he was appointed. Yawn. The photo on his Insta is from Jan 2022… so hardly news. I abhor racism. You have to have regard to the customs of other nations though, as as much as this jars (and rightly so) in the UK, in Spain I gather that it is an annual tradition. I’m sure there are things (like the UK’s right wing media’s intolerance of refugees) that jar on the continent. I don’t think this is a clear ‘he’s blacked up’ situation, I think it’s a religious tradition in certain parts of Spain… doesn’t make it objectively ‘right’ but it is more understandable. For the record, I don’t think he’s a racist based on that photo. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) Black face in the UK as of now is not acceptable. It however was acceptable less than a decade ago - see Matt Lucas, David Williams, David Baddiel. They are all still regularly employed in high profile jobs (one even gets to lecture others on racism) As others have said, it’s about knowing and being educated on the issue. Monchi hardly doing it in his spare time for kicks was he. Edited June 17, 2023 by Jareth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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