Popular Post Mic09 Posted May 4 Popular Post Share Posted May 4 Just now, Vive_La_Villa said: I thought we all wanted Villa to grow as a club. Not just win a cup and then decline again. I get why some fans prefer a trophy but the way someone is belittling fans that would rather want the club to get top 4 and are thinking longer time is getting a bit tiring. Europa league and a cup is still growing. Growing very quickly. Why would anyone suggest we get a cup and decline? Don't get get me wrong, I want CL. But if someone put a gun to my head and said "it's one or the other" (no guarantees what happens the next season) I want a cup. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Mic09 said: Europa league and a cup is still growing. Growing very quickly. Why would anyone suggest we get a cup and decline? Don't get get me wrong, I want CL. But if someone put a gun to my head and said "it's one or the other" (no guarantees what happens the next season) I want a cup. It’s not getting the cup that would make us decline. That would be great. It’s missing out on the income that top 4 brings that would hit us. Clubs already making massive losses as it is. Without that extra income players would need to be sold which would most likely lead to a decline. Edited May 4 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: Yet Sevilla have won more trophies in the last decade than Spurs, United, Arsenal and tied with Liverpool who are these supposed football Champions League giants competing for major trophies My point is that winning second or third tier trophies hasn't helped them. They are 13th in La Liga and won't be playing in Europe at all next season. This means they are likely to lose some of their better players and will be back to square 1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 19 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: My point is that winning second or third tier trophies hasn't helped them. They are 13th in La Liga and won't be playing in Europe at all next season. This means they are likely to lose some of their better players and will be back to square 1. That could happen to us even if we get Champions League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 18 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: My point is that winning second or third tier trophies hasn't helped them. They are 13th in La Liga and won't be playing in Europe at all next season. This means they are likely to lose some of their better players and will be back to square 1. Chelsea finished 12th last season and United or Chelsea could finish 8th this season and miss out on Europe. Sevilla have also played 7 out of the last 10 seasons in the Champions League not sure they are the greatest of comparison at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 22 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: It’s not getting the cup that would make us decline. That would be great. It’s missing out on the income that top 4 brings that would hit us. Clubs already making massive losses as it is. Without that extra income players would need to be sold which would most likely lead to a decline. maybe just maybe the clubs shouldnt be stupid chasing a dream and they wouldnt be making massive losses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Lets not forget where Leicester ended up after Champions League football either. Or Málaga (semi finalists) and Schalke in Germany. So yeah not the holy grail but if we get it's let's bloody enjoy it and hope it does help us kick on but it's never certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 27 minutes ago, VillaAlex said: Lets not forget where Leicester ended up after Champions League football either. Or Málaga (semi finalists) and Schalke in Germany. So yeah not the holy grail but if we get it's let's bloody enjoy it and hope it does help us kick on but it's never certain. One thing is for sure - CL qualification does no harm. It only benefits. Leicester, Malago, Shalke, they all had problems different to a few fixtures on a Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villanmac Posted May 4 Popular Post Share Posted May 4 **** sake. We actually dont get a choice lads. Most inane conversation going..talksport levels. Just try and win and see what happens. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben1505 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Villa beat Brighton, Liverpool beat Spurs - 100% Champions League Villa beat Brighton, Liverpool Spurs draw - Spurs would have to beat Man City (assuming they are going to beat Burnley and Shef) Villa beat Brighton, Spurs beat Livepool - Spurs would have to beat Man City (assuming they are going to beat Burnley and Shef) Spurs Draw v Man City and hope that a GD of 8 swings in their favour.. Basically it's down to us beating Brighton tomorrow... pretty much seals it regardless of the Liverpool v Spurs result 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VillaChris Posted May 4 Popular Post Share Posted May 4 Sometimes you have to be strategic. I'd actually rather win the league cup than Europa Conference. If we'd had a run in that this season I doubt we'd be as high in the league as we are now. Surely we should be congratulated for doing very well in two competitions this season? Last season West Ham were in the bottom 6 pretty much all the season. Newcastle reached a cup final playing no European matches. Man. United will play a cup final most likely finishing 8th now, their lowest since the 80s. Brighton got to knock outs of Europa league and now in the bottom half. We've given it a good go this season in Premier league and Conference league. People keep saying the squad isn't good enough but we've done o.k I think given the serious injuries so I think that bodes well for the next few seasons. If we want to be competitive in three competitions each year then we do need to sign 3-4 more top level players in key positions so that will take time and a bit of luck. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Even if the unthinkable happened tomorrow with a loss for us and a win for Spurs, Man City and Arsenal winning today means that the Spurs v Man City game will be huge. If Citeh win next week and Arsenal fail to win away at Man Utd, Man City would win the league on the Tuesday night if they win away at Spurs. They wouldn't miss that opportunity. Even if Arsenal beat Man Utd, Citeh would still need to beat Spurs to keep the advantage going into the last day. Fourth is ours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alakagom Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Quite like the sound of that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 I'm very relaxed about things. Spurs have shown nothing in the last month that they can battle to a draw at Anfield and then turn over Man. City. I think they'll lose both games. Even if they get two draws and win the other two games we still need just two draws from three games so we are in a very strong position and only need one strong performance to make it now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 I think if we get to 70 points it should be done. Really hoping we can get 3 points at Brighton tomorrow and then the pressure will all be on Spurs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben1505 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 6 minutes ago, Brumstopdogs said: I think if we get to 70 points it should be done. Really hoping we can get 3 points at Brighton tomorrow and then the pressure will all be on Spurs! 100%. Win the Brighton game and it's all over rover.... Spurs would need 4 points from Liverpool and City to even draw level (assuming the beat the other two). Spurs are doing a Spurs again... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted May 4 VT Supporter Share Posted May 4 (edited) Spurs won’t get more than 67 points. Tomorrow we party. Praise the Lord it’s a bank holiday. Edited May 4 by fightoffyour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancvillan Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 I think Spurs will get a max of 4 points vs sheff united and burnley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvilla28 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 3 hours ago, Mic09 said: Europa league and a cup is still growing. Growing very quickly. Why would anyone suggest we get a cup and decline? Don't get get me wrong, I want CL. But if someone put a gun to my head and said "it's one or the other" (no guarantees what happens the next season) I want a cup. Agree with that if yourbin that position you take with both hands no guarantees next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 United will catch us. 75% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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