pete101 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Just now, MaVilla said: lets be honest, if we did have genuine interest in Gnonto, i dont believe for 1 second he would sign for Everton over us. Seems we dont have any interest. He is a guaranteed starter in that Everton side, he isn't here 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterSw Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 1 hour ago, RicRic said: When we speak of attacking options many of us have left out Jhon Duran, now just a question do we feel he is not at a level to play for us regularly or do we sometimes forget he exists, i see archer suggested as a option more than him and archer wasnt even with us but personally i think he is quite raw and needs plenty coaching but do you feel he will be loaned out? Personally I think Archer is ahead of him in development and it could do wonders for Duran to go to a Championship side on loan and (hopefully) bang in 20 goals and come back for the 24/25 season to help us win the Champions League. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 1 minute ago, pete101 said: He is a guaranteed starter in that Everton side, he isn't here True, but a) he'd probably earn more here, b) he'd get to play in Europe, and c) there'd be less chance he'd be back in the same situation this time next summer. However, this is all academic, because I've seen nothing to suggest we've actually made a bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 For the reported £19m or so Gnonto would be pretty much a cheap punt in today money. Still young so why not as long as we also get some more "finished article" attacking players in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted July 11, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Tomaszk said: People who say 'calm down' are always the ones who need to calm down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 I'm not sure I believe the stories linking us to Gnonto or Barnes, we don't really need an expensive winger that predominantly plays on the left cutting onto their right, the links to Williams, Johnson, and Diaby as wingers make much more sense to me. Although I guess in theory Gnonto could come more as a young squad player with potential which would make a degree of sense, especially if we were to sell a few of our existing wingers, have also been linked to Summerville and Illng Jr, so maybe that's something we're looking at. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, MaVilla said: lets be honest, if we did have genuine interest in Gnonto, i dont believe for 1 second he would sign for Everton over us. Seems we dont have any interest. I think he would choose Everton over us for game time. We probably can’t guarantee him a starting role, as Everton could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, CarryOnVilla said: I think he would choose Everton over us for game time. We probably can’t guarantee him a starting role, as Everton could. I really think people are over-rating this. If this was the deciding factor for players, we'd still be captained by Jack Grealish. I'm not saying it's not *a* factor, but it's not *the only* or even *the main* factor. By contrast, I think people are under-rating 'earning more money' (I assume given their financial difficulties we could outbid Everton on this, though admittedly I'm not sure) and 'winning trophies' (we are definitely more likely to do this than Everton). He'd probably also prefer to play for Emery over Dyche. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, useless said: I'm not sure I believe the stories linking us to Gnonto or Barnes, we don't really need an expensive winger that predominantly plays on the left cutting onto their right, the links to Williams, Johnson, and Diaby as wingers make much more sense to me. Although I guess in theory Gnonto could come more as a young squad player with potential which would make a degree of sense, especially if we were to sell a few of our existing wingers, have also been linked to Summerville and Illng Jr, so maybe that's something we're looking at. I don’t think we’d be buying like for like immediately unless we intend to sell. We need players better than what we have and neither tick those boxes. Handy squad players but we shouldn’t be buying for the sake of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 1 minute ago, HanoiVillan said: I really think people are over-rating this. If this was the deciding factor for players, we'd still be captained by Jack Grealish. I'm not saying it's not *a* factor, but it's not *the only* or even *the main* factor. By contrast, I think people are under-rating 'earning more money' (I assume given their financial difficulties we could outbid Everton on this, though admittedly I'm not sure) and 'winning trophies' (we are definitely more likely to do this than Everton). He'd probably also prefer to play for Emery over Dyche. It’s not always the only option, but it’s a thing that they can offer we can’t. There isn’t much else they could offer we can’t. sooo, if we are in for him and if he’s choosing them over us, then it’s for the things we can’t offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Just now, CarryOnVilla said: It’s not always the only option, but it’s a thing that they can offer we can’t. There isn’t much else they could offer we can’t. sooo, if we are in for him and if he’s choosing them over us, then it’s for the things we can’t offer Yes, logically that's true. However I've seen nothing to suggest we've made a concrete offer for him, just a lot of stuff about us being 'interested' or similar. Everton on the other hand have clearly made an actual bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Who has a year left on their contract then? Troare, Nakamba, Wesley, Davis. Any others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Aren't Everton in the Championsh... Never mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 57 minutes ago, The Other Mat said: Gnonto chance he joins Everton over us. If he has a brain he would join Everton, our system doesn’t suit him and he will play all the games his body allows there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, MaVilla said: Who has a year left on their contract then? Troare, Nakamba, Wesley, Davis. Any others? No one of importance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted July 11, 2023 Moderator Share Posted July 11, 2023 Gotta larf at the Brum Mail. Villa 'not letting go' in pursuit of Gnonto. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 45 minutes ago, MaVilla said: lets be honest, if we did have genuine interest in Gnonto, i dont believe for 1 second he would sign for Everton over us. Seems we dont have any interest. Not only that, he might consider being a starter there compared to a squad player here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BOF Posted July 11, 2023 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2023 15 minutes ago, MaVilla said: Who has a year left on their contract then? Troare, Nakamba, Wesley, Davis. Any others? Nope, that's it. And only Watkins and Bailey are of any importance from the people with 2 years left on their contract, so we're in very good shape contract-wise. June 2025 Watkins Bailey Chambers Sinisalo Hause Sanson 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete101 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 25 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: I really think people are over-rating this. If this was the deciding factor for players, we'd still be captained by Jack Grealish. I'm not saying it's not *a* factor, but it's not *the only* or even *the main* factor. By contrast, I think people are under-rating 'earning more money' (I assume given their financial difficulties we could outbid Everton on this, though admittedly I'm not sure) and 'winning trophies' (we are definitely more likely to do this than Everton). He'd probably also prefer to play for Emery over Dyche. These are two very different situations Man City a the final destination We are trying to become that but we are not at the moment Players aim to climb to the very top you could join Everton and be very much earn your move to a city , Barca , Madrid ,Munich team In summary players see these clubs as their final destination, they don't care how they get there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 14 minutes ago, BOF said: Nope, that's it. And only Watkins and Bailey are of any importance from the people with 2 years left on their contract, so we're in very good shape contract-wise. June 2025 Watkins Bailey Chambers Sinisalo Hause Sanson Ollie is getting paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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