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Summer Transfer Window 2023


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8 hours ago, MWARLEY2 said:

Might go in for Felix again as his value continues to drop.  If ever there was a player who needed a manager like Unai its him  . All the ability in the world but no idea how to put it all together on the pitch.  

For the right price. Yes please. Imagine him behind Watkins. 

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6 hours ago, Shaun Teales Moustache said:

We should sign some talented 18 year olds if possible, as they would eventually qualify to fill the club trained spots in future. Duran was born a month too early 

Arda Guler at Fenerbahce please 

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1 hour ago, Woody1000 said:

Would Goncalves count as home grown from his time with Wolves? That was where he signed his first professional contract.

Nah he only played there for 2 years, one year short of the 3 years required by both the FA and UEFA, so wouldn't count in either competition

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7 hours ago, Shaun Teales Moustache said:

I've seen a couple of people mention Homegrown as a consideration for transfers, so I looked into the details.

The rules for the PL and Europa League appear to differ slightly in that the Europa League requires 4 of your HG players to have actually been trained by the club. Since I think we only really need to do much work on the squad if we make Europe, I'm going to go with those regulations. I'm also assuming Steer (Out of Contract) and all the senior guys out on loan will be sold\loaned again.

We have max 17 spots for non-UK trained players (currently 5 free spots)

We have max 21 max spots for non-Villa trained players (currently 3 free spots) (Euro squad only)

Ramsey and Sinisalo (and Archer if not loaned again) will be over-21 next year, so will occupy 2 (or 3) of the over 21 club trained spots, but all of the other youth players who would reasonably be in contention (except maybe Finn Azaz at a massive push) will still be U-21, as will Duran, so won't count against the squad. Since we're probably not going to sign Grealish\Chukwuemeka\Siegrist\Sarkic, if we sign any additional players beyond the 3 open squad positions, we would only be able to use them in domestic competition.

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Basically the Homegrown thing isn't a big concern as long as we're not tearing the whole squad down. We shouldn't sign more than 3 net new non-HG players (i.e. Over-21 Non-HG signings minus Over-21 Non-HG outgoings). If we sign more than 5 non-HG players, we definitely need to sell some non-HG players (like Olsen and Traore, arguably Bailey who are among the most likely to leave anyway).

We should sign some talented 18 year olds if possible, as they would eventually qualify to fill the club trained spots in future. Duran was born a month too early 😞.

Can you share where you found this about 4 players having to be from the club?

I can only find the usual definition which includes players trained by another club within their country

https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/protecting-the-game/protection-young-players/

That would mean we're fine as would include

Martinez, Cash, Konsa, Mings, Ramsey, Young and Watkins would all count, before we add in AJ, Archer, KKH etc

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João Felix, Nico Williams and Kang Lee In would be three nice attacking additions if we get into Europe. If they replace Bailey, Traore and Coutinho then the first 11 and squad would be stronger in my opinion, plus we are replacing older players with younger fitter players which is what we need to keep doing

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3 hours ago, rubberman said:

35 and 5ft 7. No thanks. 

That's heightism and ageism...:D

3 hours ago, alreadyexists said:

And no PL experience… 

Nor did Haaland before this season....;)

56 minutes ago, Sulberto21 said:

One footed too

But, what a foot...:)

It's not going to happen, but I didn't think that Coutinho would either. If Emi, UE and Lionel want it to happen:

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3 hours ago, HalfTimePost said:

Can you share where you found this about 4 players having to be from the club?

I can only find the usual definition which includes players trained by another club within their country

https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/protecting-the-game/protection-young-players/

That would mean we're fine as would include

Martinez, Cash, Konsa, Mings, Ramsey, Young and Watkins would all count, before we add in AJ, Archer, KKH etc

That article is quite old. Its usually 8 homegrown players with 4 from the academy

Homegrown is also a bit messy as I think Traore counts as homegrown from his Chelsea days but maybe not Luiz 

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