vreitti Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, lexicon said: We hope he learns from the minutes he gets and can impact the game, but it's stupid to expect him to dramatically change the course of things at his age. Then it's equally stupid to put him in these games. He'd be better oft playing with the reserve team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Just now, vreitti said: Then it's equally stupid to put him in these games. He'd be better oft playing with the reserve team. Nah. Is this a translation issue or are you just really harsh and demanding on youngsters? It's silly to expect him to win a match for us, but you hope that he does because he clearly has potential and ability. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Could easily have got red carded. He looks a talent but he really needs to improve his discipline which will hopefully get better as he matures as a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Woeful cameo. Not sure if he was lucky to escape red but his pass completion was horrendous, kept on giving it away when we were trying to build attacks. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero7 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 He needs to grow the feck up and drop the petulance 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Keener window-cleaner said: He is causing havoc when he comes on, but today we would have been better of keeping Diaby on the pitch. Very nearly a completely unnecessary red card, and then we got caught on our heels when the game continues after that VAR check. I feel we kind of lose our rythm a bit when he comes on, he wrestles and fights like Marlon Harewood or Grant Holt but quite often loses the ball and make us lose possesion. If his lay of to Watkins had been better weighted Watkins would have got a clean strike on goal as another example. It's of course impressive that he is performing at such a young age and not writing him off at all, still much room to improve, but I think we need a better option going into the second half of the season. I didn't think his layoff was badly weighted at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, Tom13 said: I didn't think his layoff was badly weighted at all. Agree, was a poor shot by Watkins, the layoff was fine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 15 minutes ago, Tom13 said: I didn't think his layoff was badly weighted at all. Yeah was a good layoff, unfortunately it was about the only good thing he did. Multiple times he tried to take on 2 players, lost it then just stood there. One of those times was in our half and led to Sheffield getting into our box (may have been the Konsa near own goal). Needs to wise up quick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Played like a wally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 40 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Woeful cameo. Not sure if he was lucky to escape red but his pass completion was horrendous, kept on giving it away when we were trying to build attacks. Woeful is the right word. He just looked like he didn't really belong at this level, which is pretty disappointing. And while I'm not saying we made the wrong decision re him and Archer, it's nevertheless not ideal that he threw in a stinker on the same night Archer scored the only chance he got at the other end. Hopefully we bring in someone who can meaningfully rotate with Watkins and Duran can get some time out on loan, because the potential is there, but this is an unforgiving league. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Woeful is the right word. He just looked like he didn't really belong at this level, which is pretty disappointing. And while I'm not saying we made the wrong decision re him and Archer, it's nevertheless not ideal that he threw in a stinker on the same night Archer scored the only chance he got at the other end. Hopefully we bring in someone who can meaningfully rotate with Watkins and Duran can get some time out on loan, because the potential is there, but this is an unforgiving league. Think we'll just try Bailey or Zaniolo central if anything happens to Ollie. It's not ideal but Duran starting about 3-4 games in a month would be pretty worrying as he's nowhere near ready for that sort of responsibility yet and so I'd expect our results to quickly dip. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 I know he's young and in a new country and everything but I don't ever feel like he contributes anything. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 He may turn out to be a dud. Gave the ball away with alarming regularity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 He's just a big daft carthorse that we massively overpaid for. Send him out on loan to the Championship or League 1 in January so he can play regularly and try to learn some discipline. We need much, much better as an alternative up front, he's absolutely hopeless. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villatillidie95 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 We do need more from our sub striker tbh….would any of the teams around us have him on the bench atm? It’s worrying how quick he is to almost get carded good needs to sort that out sharpish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyVillans Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 He has had some good cameos but this one was poor. Emery will be furious at him losing the ball and getting involved in an altercation over nothing with the Sheff utd player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Farlz said: I know he's young and in a new country and everything but I don't ever feel like he contributes anything. Our winning home run would have come to an end much sooner if he hadn’t scored an absolute worldie against Palace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 6 hours ago, Risso said: He's just a big daft carthorse that we massively overpaid for. Send him out on loan to the Championship or League 1 in January so he can play regularly and try to learn some discipline. We need much, much better as an alternative up front, he's absolutely hopeless. Yep. People keep going on about his "potential", whereas I haven't seen anything at all to suggest he's anything but an expensive mistake from a piss poor league. One of the players we must upgrade on if we are to be top 4 contenders in May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Well this thread escalated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May-Z Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Amazed the foul got given to Sheff United after his incident. Clear foul on him first. Surprised he didn't get a red though. Unintentional, but I'd have put money on a VAR making him walk. I'm not sure how Emery will react to seeing him lose his head like that. After Brentford, I imagine there's been a lot of talk about being calm and collected...for Duran to do that may have put him in the bad books. I doubt Emery has a lot of time for people who don't listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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