Demitri_C Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Just now, daft said: Actually, it's more like from full meat diet to eating the **** table cloth in the blink of an eye. One of the most bizarre things ive seen on here in a while! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Emery is basically a BTEC Paul Lambert. He likes his slow possession football, he is pragmatic and he favours a double pivot and at times it can be a bit tedious to some. Basically bring back Lambert. He also plays double full backs as times. So the wingers really deep just sitting Infront of the full backs. He did that yesterday. His mentality is go into the games not to lose rather than to go into the games and win. Something that our fans didn't like about Gerrard. No doubt its been successful for him and got an amazing CV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tomsky_11 Posted October 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2022 15 minutes ago, PieFacE said: Also I don't buy the "defensive will bore us to sleep" argument. Villa fans aren't Arsenal fans. I think we're far more results driven (because we've been so shit for so long) rather than caring about the "brand" of football we play. Just look at MON, the football was mostly garbage but it was effective and got results. Is the notion of him being defensive from his time at Arsenal or elsewhere? Because in his full season there, they were 3rd top scorers after City and Liverpool, but only 9th for fewest goals conceded. When he was sacked by Arsenal they'd scored 18 and conceded 19 in 13 games. Doesn't sound very defensive to me. In two full seasons at Villareal he's finished 7th but had 4th highest scoring team both times. Defensively they were 8th and 4th in these two seasons. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, tomsky_11 said: Is the notion of him being defensive from his time at Arsenal or elsewhere? Because in his full season there, they were 3rd top scorers after City and Liverpool, but only 9th for fewest goals conceded. When he was sacked by Arsenal they'd scored 18 and conceded 19 in 13 games. Doesn't sound very defensive to me. In two full seasons at Villareal he's finished 7th but had 4th highest scoring team both times. Defensively they were 8th and 4th in these two seasons. Exactly... More armchair footy experts making stuff up because they want to be the first one to say "I told you so!" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Indigo Posted October 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, tomsky_11 said: Is the notion of him being defensive from his time at Arsenal or elsewhere? Because in his full season there, they were 3rd top scorers after City and Liverpool, but only 9th for fewest goals conceded. When he was sacked by Arsenal they'd scored 18 and conceded 19 in 13 games. Doesn't sound very defensive to me. In two full seasons at Villareal he's finished 7th but had 4th highest scoring team both times. Defensively they were 8th and 4th in these two seasons. Added to this, last season Villarreal averaged the 4th highest possession in the whole of La Liga, so it's not as though they exclusively play some kind of deep-sitting counter-attack football. Think folk are getting too hung up on select games in Europe where they were the underdogs and played those games pragmatically. Surely that's the kind of versatility you'd want in a coach. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Well you learn summat new everyday dontcha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Villarreal won last night with 9 men 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsky_11 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 (edited) His 442/4141 looks like its only been used in the majority at Villareal. Arsenal was predominantly 4231 first season but got messy second season, looks like he also tried 433, 442, 442 diamond, 4312 and 3412 in the 13 games he had before the sack. PSG 433 nearly all the time. Sevilla looks like 4231 about 80% of the time. Feels like maybe he finds a system for the players at his disposal, uses that most of the time, but can mix it up depending on the opposition. Edited October 24, 2022 by tomsky_11 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 14 minutes ago, messi11 said: He also plays double full backs as times. So the wingers really deep just sitting Infront of the full backs. He did that yesterday. His mentality is go into the games not to lose rather than to go into the games and win. Something that our fans didn't like about Gerrard. No doubt its been successful for him and got an amazing CV. Yes, I mean it would be awful, just awful to have to endure all that success and those positive results down at Villa Park. We don't want that, it's not who we are, no sir, not a bit of it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, TheStagMan said: Yes, I mean it would be awful, just awful to have to endure all that success and those positive results down at Villa Park. We don't want that, it's not who we are, no sir, not a bit of it. We've always played the West Ham way and we will continue to play the West Ham way. Champagne football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sulberto21 Posted October 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2022 If it is Emery don’t be surprised if we become very successful. That Arsenal stint and the abuse he received will make him even more determined to make us challengers in the league and cups. My first choice would always be Marcelo Gallardo followed by Pochettino but Emery is a very close 3rd. But my opinions are as useful as chocolate teapots so….. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, tomsky_11 said: His 442/4141 looks like its only been used in the majority at Villareal. Arsenal was predominantly 4231 first season but got messy second season, looks like he also tried 433, 442, 442 diamond, 4312 and 3412 in the 13 games he had before the sack. PSG 433 nearly all the time. Sevilla looks like 4231 about 80% of the time. Feels like maybe he finds a system for the players at his disposal, uses that most of the time, but can mix it up depending on the opposition. A manager that adapts his system to get the best out of the players? Someone needs to let him know we don’t do that at B6. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Sulberto21 said: If it is Emery don’t be surprised if we become very successful. That Arsenal stint and the abuse he received will make him even more determined to make us challengers in the league and cups. My first choice would always be Marcelo Gallardo followed by Pochettino but Emery is a very close 3rd. But my opinions are as useful as chocolate teapots so….. My only worry is the abuse he will takw now as some sectioms of the media are already gunning for us 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 (edited) I'm not excited by Emery as his football is too pragmatic and defensive for me... and I want to see us play good football. But he's a decent appointment and probably the right one for Villa now. So I'm in on it, if not excited. I saw a debate on Twitter the other day about Bielsa v Dyche and that Bielsa is clearly the better manager but in 17th and a 3rd of the season gone, Dyche would probably be a better choice for us. Emery is the sensible, measured choice. He will be able to make us more pragmatic, we'll be able to see games out better and we'll be tighter. The 'positives' of Dyche. We'll also have a European quality manager, who has won things, has a big name and (hopefully) commands respect of the dressing room, and will attract players who may otherwise have not considered us. (Some) of the positives of Bielsa. We'll also see Luiz played in a Pivot finally and in a 4231 we may even see the best of Buendia & Bailey and the end of WatkIngs. *Disclaimer* not saying Dyche or Bielsa were in the running or should've been, but just Emery is a nice balance and therefore a good fit if we aren't somehow pulling a Poch, Tuchel, etc. out of the bag. Edited October 24, 2022 by HalfTimePost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pas5898 Posted October 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2022 I literally can't believe people are turning their nose up a manager who took Villarreal to the champions league semi final. I'd have my own Semi, just if we got into the Uefa conference league. 14 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sidcow Posted October 24, 2022 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2022 50 minutes ago, messi11 said: Emery is one hell of a risky and expensive appointment! You need to have a word with your programmer. There is a conflict in your code. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 28 minutes ago, messi11 said: Hope this is true!!! I'm believing Phil McNulty over Ryans Sister in law, Hairy hands, Tiger woods and Joey from Texas. EVEN Joey from Texas?! You're a mad man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted October 24, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 24, 2022 I'd be happy with Emery. Take a look through our Premier League history and tell me how many good, established managers we've had. Now count the chancers, the up-and-comers, the relatively new and promising. Would take Emery in a heartbeat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 35 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: Wow nearly 1000 games and he is only he is early 50's. Lot of experience there in 3 different leagues. 4 leagues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Emery absolutely does not have his teams play boring football. I’ve always watched Spanish football because I prefer technical teams as opposed to the kick and rush rubbish we’ve served up at Villa for a very long time and he’s mostly had his teams playing good technical football. We won’t dominate every game but we’ll be in the games and with a chance of winning. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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