Popular Post DCJonah Posted January 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2023 The funny thing about the what if Watkins scenario is he's not even our most important player. If Martinez gets injured we'd be much worse off. But where's the panic to replace Olsen? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 40 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Do you really think Emery has joined us to scrap and save in the bottom half of the league? Would you have if you were offered your highest ever salary over 5 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, DCJonah said: For numerous reasons. As has been stated, to try and get our top targets in the summer if clubs have asked too much or are reluctant to sell now. Or in the case of Delefeou, if injuries have played a part. Do you really think it's because we've refused to sign players or we have no plan? Perfect example- Sarr would have been a Villa player for around £25m but they’ve just rejected £36m as per @useless’s post above. Madness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, Tayls said: Would you have if you were offered your highest ever salary over 5 years? So you think he's here for a high wage? I mean there's not much point discussing anything if this is your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 minute ago, foreveryoung said: Could be worse, I could put my opinion across on the police having to finally give in and admit to 100% ****ing up at Hillborough. The truth always comes out in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Segundo Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Thanks. You've clearly explained why we will still be able to attract players and why your original post was nonsense. Oh dear, we've dropped to that level have we? Since my point was not about us not being able to attract players, I'm sure I've done nothing of the sort. My point was about the potential missed opportunity to get top 6 or 7 by not signing players now, nothing to do with whether we can attract them or not. But by all means you just go ahead and respond to some imaginary comment that better suits your agenda. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, smokingzen said: "What if's" are about planning for the future and things that can possibly and are likely to happen. The more contingencies you cover in your planning the better prepared you are and the more likely you are to have better outcomes. This is what seperates humans from animals, and successful people from others. I actually stated about 2 pages before your post that Emery will have thought about a back up plan and will be looking for the midfielders to score more goals with the style of play he is trying to implement. Still doesn't mean it's not a risk. Plus this isn't about wanting transfers, it was about not wanting this one, at least until we had another forward. Midfielders have scored half the goals under Emery. Striker role under Emery is more about the press. There's no reason Emery couldn't convert a current mid to do that role if required like I've already said other clubs have done with success over the years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QldVilla Posted January 31, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 hours ago, foreveryoung said: Our best football is always ahead of us, that's the problem. Fact is, if your not spending, your not achieving f*** all. I don’t agree with that at all, it’s a fallacy. You can spend money and not improve the team, we’re trying to improve the team, sometimes we just need to be patient. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted January 31, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) I just think there are so many crazy variables in a January window, and I would go back to my tiredly repeated idea that Villa are in an especially weird "middle child" position right now. We're a new threat to other clubs, but still a joke to some snob agents. We're rich, but not that rich. We're going places, but we still feel the wounds from relegation. We have a great experienced manager, but he's new here. We're full of history, but some will argue that's the problem. The Half-Shadowland, I tell you. Which I love, personally, but we will have to find a way into the light, or we'll slip into darkness again. And all that makes the January window a special fiend for clubs like Villa. Edited January 31, 2023 by Marka Ragnos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, Tayls said: Would you have if you were offered your highest ever salary over 5 years? Must be why Emery is currently managed Newcastle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, DCJonah said: So you think he's here for a high wage? I mean there's not much point discussing anything if this is your opinion. I think the amount we agreed to pay him is one of the reasons he is here, Yes. That’s a given, though, surely? But your response to the question I asked about ‘how do people know that will do all our business in the summer’, was “why would Emery be here…” I don’t think Emery is only here because we agreed to let him go nuts on transfers in the summer of 2023… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Midfielders have scored half the goals under Emery. Striker role under Emery is more about the press. There's no reason Emery couldn't convert a current mid to do that role if required like I've already said other clubs have done with success over the years Can’t wait to see McGinn has a hybrid high press false 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyjavfc Posted January 31, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2023 Come on villa, give us one of these 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 This window was all about clearing the decks. We got a decent fee for Danny Ings who didn’t really fit in with Unai’s style of play. He was on £125k a week. We’d have probably got half of what we got from West Ham in the summer. We’ve also shifted a number of fringe players none of them will be doing the job for free. We had a bloated squad. It’s all well and good having a big squad if it’s packed with quality, £100m players on the bench etc. We’ve got the best manager we’ve had in the modern era and brilliant owners. We want to take advantage of this and build something that can make us a top team for years, not just possibly qualify for the Europa League. We may do that anyway if we carry on with our existing squad, which has been doing pretty well now it has a proper coach in charge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, El Segundo said: Oh dear, we've dropped to that level have we? Since my point was not about us not being able to attract players, I'm sure I've done nothing of the sort. My point was about the potential missed opportunity to get top 6 or 7 by not signing players now, nothing to do with whether we can attract them or not. But by all means you just go ahead and respond to some imaginary comment that better suits your agenda. Your post said that it would be annoying to not get top 6 because of the players we could then sign. As I've said, we've managed to sign good players and attract a world class manager without European football. So the idea failing to get top 6, when only months ago relegation was an issue, would be disappointing is utter nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spoony Posted January 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2023 Augustinsson, Bednarek, Nakamba, Sanson, Archer, Guilbert and Ings have had (drumroll)…35 premier league appearances between them this season. 19 of those were from Ings. 6 were from Archer for 44 mins of football. In terms of minutes overall it’s very very little. The impact of these departures is hilariously overblown. I bet Moreno plays more than Augustinsson, Bednarek, Nakamba, Sanson and Guilbert combined. Yes we now lack some depth but depth is a little meaningless when Digne covers Augustinsson’s role, Konsa covers Bednarek when Costa is back, Duran covers Archer, having anyone replacing Sanson and Nakamba is meaningless as they just never played, Cash covers Guilbert. The only question mark is Ings. We have Duran to fill the gap. But then when you consider it was £15m to take him off the wage bill at his age, it’s just a no-brainer. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, DCJonah said: For numerous reasons. As has been stated, to try and get our top targets in the summer if clubs have asked too much or are reluctant to sell now. Or in the case of Delefeou, if injuries have played a part. Do you really think it's because we've refused to sign players or we have no plan? I have no idea.....But I am prepared to debate possibilities and not just accept convenient views, to make my visit on Saturday compliant. I will have my disappointment of the January window, firmly, shelved, on Saturday, and only the game will occupy my thoughts, my full support will be unleashed.....but if you think, I am happy, to pass over on a opportunity to make the team better, I am not. I accept the failure to strengthen the team, with the same irritation as missing a penalty......must do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Marka Ragnos said: I just think there are so many crazy variables in a January window, and I would go back to my tiredly repeated idea that Villa are in an especially weird "middle child" position right now. We're a threat to other clubs, but still a joke to some snob agents. We're rich, but not that rich. We're going places, but we still feel the wounds from relegation. We have a great experienced manager, but he's new here. We're full of history, but some will argue that's the problem. The Half-Shadowland, I tell you. Which I love, personally, but we will have to find a way into the light, or we'll slip into darkness again. And all that makes the January window a special fiend. Maybe we are just a Crystal Palace or Leicester. Maybe that's what the board are happy with now, midtable, makes you think? Since we took 100 mill for Grealish, we haven't really made any statement signings, I doubt we have even spent half the money net. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 8 minutes ago, DCJonah said: The funny thing about the what if Watkins scenario is he's not even our most important player. If Martinez gets injured we'd be much worse off. But where's the panic to replace Olsen? This is a fair point - although keepers get injured less. We didn't deliberately weaken our goalkeeping department this window though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tayls said: I think the amount we agreed to pay him is one of the reasons he is here, Yes. That’s a given, though, surely? But your response to the question I asked about ‘how do people know that will do all our business in the summer’, was “why would Emery be here…” I don’t think Emery is only here because we agreed to let him go nuts on transfers in the summer of 2023… I didn't say go nuts. He's here because we have high expectations for the future. Do you really believe we won't back him to meet them after bringing him in for this reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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