bobzy Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 37 minutes ago, sidcow said: You know what history means, right? I think I've qualified why I think it's fair to state the clubs are similar in historical stature - you disagree because of pre-World War I honours and number of top flight seasons and that's absolutely fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 I still see Derby as a bigger club than Forest tbh. If Clough had stayed there long term instead of going to Leeds for his 44 days they'd have won a lot more aswell. Derby have bigger support aswell. Against MK Franchise on Monday they had 27k, 30k against Ipswich in their previous home game. They're not even top 6 in league one. When we played Forest at the City ground in our first season down in early 2017 the attendance was 20k which is incredible when we'd have taken 3k so only 17k home fans for a match that hadn't been played in nearly two decades. Of course you could throw Leicester into the mix but that's them having their golden period now so a bit of an abnormal example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted April 12, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 12, 2023 1 minute ago, VillaChris said: I still see Derby as a bigger club than Forest tbh. If Clough had stayed there long term instead of going to Leeds for his 44 days they'd have won a lot more aswell. Derby have bigger support aswell. Against MK Franchise on Monday they had 27k, 30k against Ipswich in their previous home game. They're not even top 6 in league one. When we played Forest at the City ground in our first season down in early 2017 the attendance was 20k which is incredible when we'd have taken 3k so only 17k home fans for a match that hadn't been played in nearly two decades. Of course you could throw Leicester into the mix but that's them having their golden period now so a bit of an abnormal example. And that there, that’s the biggest compliment you can give Smith. Leicester are now having their golden period. Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 16, 2023 Author Share Posted April 16, 2023 They are 100% finishing bottom and going to be in a financial mess when they go down. The next leeds i think Cooper to be sacked big sam on standby i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Who'd have thunk spending 100s of millions and signing 20 odd players would be a mistake. This guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 31 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Who'd have thunk spending 100s of millions and signing 20 odd players would be a mistake. This guy Villa did something similar and stayed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Neat and tidy but don't look like scoring. That usually doesn't end well. It is very hard to stay up when you win the playoffs and have to buy a entire new side in about 2 months. As we nearly found out in our first year back. Cooper has done wonders at the club, and no doubt they will sack him off for all of his efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 14 minutes ago, Don_Simon said: Villa did something similar and stayed up. No we didnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Something similar, right here baby... https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/aston-villa/transfers/verein/405/plus/?saison_id=2019&pos=&detailpos=&w_s=s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 I must be missing the part where we signed 30 players. 3 rights backs and 3 left backs and countless players on substantial money or fees that didn't kick a ball. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 We spent a lot (less than them), but signed 12 players to their 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: I must be missing the part where we signed 30 players. 3 rights backs and 3 left backs and countless players on substantial money or fees that didn't kick a ball. Something, similar. Not the same. Similar. It worked for us, potentially not for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MellbergsBeard Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Don_Simon said: Something similar, right here baby... https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/aston-villa/transfers/verein/405/plus/?saison_id=2019&pos=&detailpos=&w_s=s We signed 12 players and 3 of them were already on loan with us? Nothing like what. forest done. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Lingaed has been a waste of space for them. Cooper worked miracles to get them promotion in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 They really look a mess don’t they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Should have signed davis when they had the chance to, they knew what they would get from him. ( yes out injured a fair bit) but a team player who had prem experience and fitted in well at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 17, 2023 Author Share Posted April 17, 2023 12 hours ago, Don_Simon said: Villa did something similar and stayed up. Eh? No we didnt. We signed various players because alot of players left but nothing like forest did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted April 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 17, 2023 10 hours ago, brummybloke said: Should have signed davis when they had the chance to, they knew what they would get from him. ( yes out injured a fair bit) but a team player who had prem experience and fitted in well at the club. They badly miss a forward and Davies would have been useful from what I saw of them against Manure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 I’m not sure Davis was the answer, he looked well below PL standard for us. The owner pumped money in, it would have been madness to spend it on Davis. Lingard would be good enough if he could be bothered, different kind of issue. Both bad ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Genie said: I’m not sure Davis was the answer, he looked well below PL standard for us. The owner pumped money in, it would have been madness to spend it on Davis. Lingard would be good enough if he could be bothered, different kind of issue. Both bad ideas. Some players just fit certain clubs, we've bought prolific strikers who have done little with us, moved them on and start scoring again. Davis brought other players like johnson more into scoring positions, they just don't have that target man now to hold things up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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