Genie Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, brummybloke said: Some players just fit certain clubs, we've bought prolific strikers who have done little with us, moved them on and start scoring again. Davis brought other players like johnson more into scoring positions, they just don't have that target man now to hold things up We bought players who looked good and they didn’t work at our club. It’s different to Keinan who has never looked good at PL level. At all levels he’s scored 14 goals since 2017. He’s not the player you buy when you want to survive in the Premier League, especially with a fairly big budget. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jono62 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Navas is still a quality keeper. Shame he's in front of that defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AXD Posted April 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, Jono62 said: Navas is still a quality keeper. Shame he's in front of that defence. that would explain why they concede so often. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jono62 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, AXD said: that would explain why they concede so often. They shouldn't if all 4 are on the line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 54 minutes ago, Genie said: We bought players who looked good and they didn’t work at our club. It’s different to Keinan who has never looked good at PL level. At all levels he’s scored 14 goals since 2017. He’s not the player you buy when you want to survive in the Premier League, especially with a fairly big budget. As far as I'm aware, he's only played for us in the Premier league? It's not like you can say he hasn't performed at other clubs in the Premier league, and as I say, different players suit different clubs or managers. His strengths are bringing others in and keeping the ball and cbs occupied. He needs a move though as he hasn't been able to do it for our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Davis honestly would have been a better fit for their team than any of the other shite they've signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 17, 2023 17 hours ago, Don_Simon said: Something, similar. Not the same. Similar. It worked for us, potentially not for them. OK, what Forest have done is literally no different to what every promoted side ever have done. They've signed some players. Good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, sidcow said: OK, what Forest have done is literally no different to what every promoted side ever have done. They've signed some players. Good. Nobody has ever done it on the scale of them, complete insanity what they have tried when the had half a decent team left from their promotion winning side. Transfers[edit] In[edit] Transfers in[edit] Date Position Nationality Player From Fee Team Ref. 20 June 2022 GK Ryan Hammond Millwall Free transfer Under-23s [2] 25 June 2022 FW Taiwo Awoniyi Union Berlin Undisclosed[a] First team [4] 3 July 2022 DF Giulian Biancone Troyes Undisclosed First team [6] 4 July 2022 MF Joel Thompson Crusaders Undisclosed Under-23s [7] 6 July 2022 DF Moussa Niakhaté Mainz 05 Undisclosed[c] First team [9] 10 July 2022 DF Omar Richards Bayern Munich Undisclosed[d] First team [13] 11 July 2022 DF Neco Williams Liverpool Undisclosed[e] First team [15] 15 July 2022 GK Wayne Hennessey Burnley Undisclosed First team [16] 17 July 2022 MF Brandon Aguilera Alajuelense Undisclosed Under-23s [17] 20 July 2022 DF Harry Toffolo Huddersfield Town Undisclosed First team [18] 20 July 2022 MF Lewis O'Brien Huddersfield Town Undisclosed First team [19] 21 July 2022 MF Jesse Lingard Unattached[f] Free transfer First team [20] 31 July 2022 MF Orel Mangala VfB Stuttgart Undisclosed[g] First team [22] 13 August 2022 FW Emmanuel Dennis Watford Undisclosed[h] First team [24] 13 August 2022 MF Cheikhou Kouyaté Unattached Free transfer First team [25] 14 August 2022 MF Remo Freuler Atalanta Undisclosed First team [26] 19 August 2022 MF Morgan Gibbs-White Wolverhampton Wanderers Undisclosed[j] First team [28] 26 August 2022 FW Hwang Ui-jo Bordeaux Undisclosed First team [29] 1 September 2022 DF Willy Boly Wolverhampton Wanderers Undisclosed First team [30] 1 September 2022 FW Josh Bowler Blackpool Undisclosed First team [31] 7 September 2022 DF Serge Aurier Unattached[k] Free transfer First team [32] 20 September 2022 GK Adnan Kanurić Unattached[l] Free transfer First team [33] 1 January 2023 MF Gustavo Scarpa Unattached[m] Free transfer First team [34] 16 January 2023 MF Danilo Palmeiras Undisclosed[n] First team [36] 31 January 2023 DF Felipe Atlético Madrid Undisclosed First team [37] 31 January 2023 MF Jonjo Shelvey Newcastle United Undisclosed First team [38] 2 February 2023 FW André Ayew Unattached[o] Free transfer First team [39] ^ Fee reported as £17,000,000[3] ^ Fee reported as £5,000,000[5] ^ Fee reported as £8,500,000 plus add-ons[8] ^ Fee reported to be between £7,200,000 and £10,000,000[10][11][12] ^ Fee reported as £17,000,000 plus add-ons[14] ^ Released by Manchester United on 1 July 2022 ^ Fee reported as £12,700,000[21] ^ Fee reported to be between £10,000,000 and £20,000,000[23] ^ Released by Crystal Palace on 1 July 2022 ^ Fee reported as £25,000,000 plus add-ons[27] ^ Released by Villareal on 1 July 2022 ^ Released by Sarajevo on 1 July 2022 ^ Released by Palmeiras on 1 January 2023 ^ Fee reported as £16,000,000[35] ^ Released by Al Sadd on 29 January 2023 Loans in[edit] Date from Position Nationality Player From Duration Team Ref. 2 July 2022 GK Dean Henderson Manchester United End of season First team [40] 29 August 2022 DF Renan Lodi Atlético Madrid End of season First team [41] 1 September 2022 DF Loïc Badé Rennes 3 January 2023 First team [42][43] 20 January 2023 FW Chris Wood Newcastle United End of season First team [44] 31 January 2023 GK Keylor Navas Paris Saint-Germain End of season First team [45] Edited April 17, 2023 by Kuwabatake Sanjuro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Kuwabatake Sanjuro said: Nobody has ever done it on the scale of them, complete insanity what they have tried when the had half a decent team left from their promotion winning side. Transfers[edit] In[edit] Transfers in[edit] Date Position Nationality Player From Fee Team Ref. 20 June 2022 GK Ryan Hammond Millwall Free transfer Under-23s [2] 25 June 2022 FW Taiwo Awoniyi Union Berlin Undisclosed[a] First team [4] 3 July 2022 DF Giulian Biancone Troyes Undisclosed First team [6] 4 July 2022 MF Joel Thompson Crusaders Undisclosed Under-23s [7] 6 July 2022 DF Moussa Niakhaté Mainz 05 Undisclosed[c] First team [9] 10 July 2022 DF Omar Richards Bayern Munich Undisclosed[d] First team [13] 11 July 2022 DF Neco Williams Liverpool Undisclosed[e] First team [15] 15 July 2022 GK Wayne Hennessey Burnley Undisclosed First team [16] 17 July 2022 MF Brandon Aguilera Alajuelense Undisclosed Under-23s [17] 20 July 2022 DF Harry Toffolo Huddersfield Town Undisclosed First team [18] 20 July 2022 MF Lewis O'Brien Huddersfield Town Undisclosed First team [19] 21 July 2022 MF Jesse Lingard Unattached[f] Free transfer First team [20] 31 July 2022 MF Orel Mangala VfB Stuttgart Undisclosed[g] First team [22] 13 August 2022 FW Emmanuel Dennis Watford Undisclosed[h] First team [24] 13 August 2022 MF Cheikhou Kouyaté Unattached Free transfer First team [25] 14 August 2022 MF Remo Freuler Atalanta Undisclosed First team [26] 19 August 2022 MF Morgan Gibbs-White Wolverhampton Wanderers Undisclosed[j] First team [28] 26 August 2022 FW Hwang Ui-jo Bordeaux Undisclosed First team [29] 1 September 2022 DF Willy Boly Wolverhampton Wanderers Undisclosed First team [30] 1 September 2022 FW Josh Bowler Blackpool Undisclosed First team [31] 7 September 2022 DF Serge Aurier Unattached[k] Free transfer First team [32] 20 September 2022 GK Adnan Kanurić Unattached[l] Free transfer First team [33] 1 January 2023 MF Gustavo Scarpa Unattached[m] Free transfer First team [34] 16 January 2023 MF Danilo Palmeiras Undisclosed[n] First team [36] 31 January 2023 DF Felipe Atlético Madrid Undisclosed First team [37] 31 January 2023 MF Jonjo Shelvey Newcastle United Undisclosed First team [38] 2 February 2023 FW André Ayew Unattached[o] Free transfer First team [39] ^ Fee reported as £17,000,000[3] ^ Fee reported as £5,000,000[5] ^ Fee reported as £8,500,000 plus add-ons[8] ^ Fee reported to be between £7,200,000 and £10,000,000[10][11][12] ^ Fee reported as £17,000,000 plus add-ons[14] ^ Released by Manchester United on 1 July 2022 ^ Fee reported as £12,700,000[21] ^ Fee reported to be between £10,000,000 and £20,000,000[23] ^ Released by Crystal Palace on 1 July 2022 ^ Fee reported as £25,000,000 plus add-ons[27] ^ Released by Villareal on 1 July 2022 ^ Released by Sarajevo on 1 July 2022 ^ Released by Palmeiras on 1 January 2023 ^ Fee reported as £16,000,000[35] ^ Released by Al Sadd on 29 January 2023 Loans in[edit] Date from Position Nationality Player From Duration Team Ref. 2 July 2022 GK Dean Henderson Manchester United End of season First team [40] 29 August 2022 DF Renan Lodi Atlético Madrid End of season First team [41] 1 September 2022 DF Loïc Badé Rennes 3 January 2023 First team [42][43] 20 January 2023 FW Chris Wood Newcastle United End of season First team [44] 31 January 2023 GK Keylor Navas Paris Saint-Germain End of season First team [45] I think you missed the dripping sarcasm in my response Edited April 17, 2023 by sidcow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Very much doing Fulham. God help them economically if/when they go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 I suppose it’s asking too much for them to get a result at Anfield? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Hwang Ui-jo, Loic Bade and Gustavo Scarpa? Have these people even got on the pitch at any point? I've literally never heard of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Hwang Ui-jo, Loic Bade and Gustavo Scarpa? Have these people even got on the pitch at any point? I've literally never heard of them. Yeah Scarpa was playing a bit when he first joined in January but he had issues back in Brazil so hasn't been involved for a while.... Nottingham Forest’s Gustavo Scarpa in Brazil after losing £1m in crypto scam | Nottingham Forest | The Guardian Quote Nottingham Forest are supporting their midfielder Gustavo Scarpa after he lost almost £1m in a cryptocurrency scam. Forest allowed their January signing to return to Brazil to deal with the matter, where returns on his significant investment were not paid. Scarpa, who moved to England in November after his contract at Palmeiras expired, has appeared in court in his homeland after trying to regain his money, according to reports in Brazil. Loic Bade is a really strange one even by Forest standards. They've been terrible at the back all season yet he didn't make their premier league squad once and they terminated his loan and sent him back to Rennes. Sevilla then picked him up and he's pretty much started every game for them! Actually scored last night at Valencia in a crucial 2-0 win. They were putting Steve Cook infront of him and then left Cook out of the premier league squad when they re-jigged it in January! Their fans don't have a clue either what happened: Loïc Badé | LTLF Forest Forum Dosen't Hwang play for Wolves.....no clue on that one sorry! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 17 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Yeah Scarpa was playing a bit when he first joined in January but he had issues back in Brazil so hasn't been involved for a while.... Nottingham Forest’s Gustavo Scarpa in Brazil after losing £1m in crypto scam | Nottingham Forest | The Guardian Loic Bade is a really strange one even by Forest standards. They've been terrible at the back all season yet he didn't make their premier league squad once and they terminated his loan and sent him back to Rennes. Sevilla then picked him up and he's pretty much started every game for them! Actually scored last night at Valencia in a crucial 2-0 win. They were putting Steve Cook infront of him and then left Cook out of the premier league squad when they re-jigged it in January! Their fans don't have a clue either what happened: Loïc Badé | LTLF Forest Forum Dosen't Hwang play for Wolves.....no clue on that one sorry! Its a different Hwang at Forest, he has now had 2 loans since signing last summer Lewis O'Brien they paid about 8 million for and have loaned him to MLS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 15 hours ago, brummybloke said: Some players just fit certain clubs, we've bought prolific strikers who have done little with us, moved them on and start scoring again. Davis brought other players like johnson more into scoring positions, they just don't have that target man now to hold things up Who were these prolific strikers we bought?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 2 hours ago, VillaJ100 said: Who were these prolific strikers we bought?! Bosko Balaban scored 14 in 27 for Dinamo Zagreb before signing for us. So maybe him. Or maybe Marlon Harewood who had a 1 in 3 for West Ham before signing for us. Probably means Scott Hogan though who scored 21 in 33 for Brentford before signing for Villa. Not long before that he was even more prolific at Rochdale and Woodley Sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 6 hours ago, VillaJ100 said: Who were these prolific strikers we bought?! Whittingham Balaban Mccormack Helenius Hogan Off the top of my head without bothering to Google. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 21 minutes ago, brummybloke said: Whittingham Balaban Mccormack Helenius Hogan Off the top of my head without bothering to Google. Could have just said Ings and Phillips 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 20 hours ago, Kuwabatake Sanjuro said: Nobody has ever done it on the scale of them, complete insanity what they have tried when the had half a decent team left from their promotion winning side. They really didn't - I don't understand how people get this so wrong so regularly From the side that got promoted, they lost: Their first choice goalkeeper Both wing backs 2 back up centre backs 2 First choice midfielders Their first choice striker and also their backup striker They also sold/released a load of squad fillers. If you watched Forest last season, the success they were getting were from the wing backs bombing on up the pitch and causing havoc. Djed Spence looked absolutely immense (which led to Spurs buying him from Boro). The only players who were "there" from their first team squad last season were Worrall, Cook, McKenna, Yates, Johnson and Surridge - of those, Cook isn't good enough (arguably McKenna too, although I think he won their player of the season) and Surridge was essentially their third choice striker. Maybe they didn't need 30 players, but 20 really isn't that far off what was required to almost stand still in terms of squad depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 6 hours ago, bobzy said: They really didn't - I don't understand how people get this so wrong so regularly From the side that got promoted, they lost: Their first choice goalkeeper Both wing backs 2 back up centre backs 2 First choice midfielders Their first choice striker and also their backup striker They also sold/released a load of squad fillers. If you watched Forest last season, the success they were getting were from the wing backs bombing on up the pitch and causing havoc. Djed Spence looked absolutely immense (which led to Spurs buying him from Boro). The only players who were "there" from their first team squad last season were Worrall, Cook, McKenna, Yates, Johnson and Surridge - of those, Cook isn't good enough (arguably McKenna too, although I think he won their player of the season) and Surridge was essentially their third choice striker. Maybe they didn't need 30 players, but 20 really isn't that far off what was required to almost stand still in terms of squad depth. If they had stopped at 15 it would have been sensible. Last season they had an incredibly settled side with great momentum by the end of the season. Why they didn't try and keep as much of that together is a mystery as they showed in the FA cup they could dismantle PL teams too. Spence could have been attainable on loan from Spurs, his move there has been a disaster for him. Garner and Davis might not be brilliant but both were settled and crowd favourites. With the resources they have both were very attainable. Cook and Colback were the 2 who don't have the legs for PL football but both could have been grand to have around for experience. Like at Chelsea I can only imagine how difficult it has been to organise training with such numbers, there is a reason top teams like to have tight squads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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