Peter Griffin Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 21 minutes ago, Zatman said: Half and half Gerrard is no Nagelsmann though I didn’t say Villa and Gerrard were the right club 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, Zatman said: He had a Scott Hogan burst of form in RBL system. Has been found out for Chelsea and Germany since he hasnt made much impact in tournaments Seems like a sound assessment to me mate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete101 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, Zatman said: He had a Scott Hogan burst of form in RBL system. Has been found out for Chelsea and Germany since he hasnt made much impact in tournaments When seen Werner mentioned I thought Scott Hogan (can't stay onside )and Ollie Watkins (poor finishing) rolled into 1 player 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 When are we going to see some outgoings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaHatesMe Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 45 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said: Football isn’t all about stats. Some judge it with their eyes. I think Werner is a much better player to Watkins. He needs to be played properly and he needs a run of game imo. I watched him at RBL and we was unreal he was so good. The right team and the right manager and Werner will look world class. Ollie will never look world class although he is very good It's not all about stats, no, but they help explain to us what our eyes are seeing at times. In his final season at RBL he scored 28 goals on an xG of 22.4, which suggested he was quite lucky, and those Chelsea numbers seem to show that the "luck" has run out. Also, from what I've deduced from my eyes, I don't think his strengths as a player fit into the style Gerrard has this team playing. For me, he's much better suited to the Bundesliga than the Premier League. Finally, his greatest asset has always been his pace, and he's not going to get any faster than he currently is. He'll only get slower., so it's a no thanks from me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, TRO said: is he better than Emmanuel Dennis? I think so but I haven’t seen enough of either of them to really have much of an opinion. Edited August 4, 2022 by Vive_La_Villa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, AV82 said: When are we going to see some outgoings? Chukwumeka left yesterday for £15-20m! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 20 minutes ago, Zatman said: He had a Scott Hogan burst of form in RBL system. Chelsea and Germany HAVEN'T PLAYED TO HIS STRENGTHS so he hasnt made much impact in tournaments Translated for you. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 (edited) Player impresses in weak league can’t replicate in team challenging for premier league, Shock horror. Now I’m going to be told how strong the Bundasliga is because Frankfurt won the Europa league. Edited August 4, 2022 by Vive_La_Villa 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicRic Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 57 minutes ago, VillaHatesMe said: I find it funny how many people complain about Ollie missing his chances yet so many of the same people would take Werner. In Premier League play, Ollie has scored 25 goals on 28.2 xG for Villa while Werner has scored 10 goals on 19.5 xG in two seasons with Chelsea. Thank you! think its the price tag and that hes a chelsea player 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 (edited) ..sorry post removed..wrong thread. Edited August 4, 2022 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 22 minutes ago, AV82 said: When are we going to see some outgoings? We offloaded Chuk yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 23 minutes ago, AV82 said: When are we going to see some outgoings? When we find buyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 23 minutes ago, VillaHatesMe said: It's not all about stats, no, but they help explain to us what our eyes are seeing at times. In his final season at RBL he scored 28 goals on an xG of 22.4, which suggested he was quite lucky, and those Chelsea numbers seem to show that the "luck" has run out. Also, from what I've deduced from my eyes, I don't think his strengths as a player fit into the style Gerrard has this team playing. For me, he's much better suited to the Bundesliga than the Premier League. Finally, his greatest asset has always been his pace, and he's not going to get any faster than he currently is. He'll only get slower., so it's a no thanks from me. It was tempting not to read past the deduction that scoring more goals than xG suggests luck but I persevered I agree he may not suit a Gerrard team, hence why I said in the right team and with the right manager but I also believe be he is technically a better player to Watkins. I think if we played to his strengths he could be brilliant for us. As regards not getting any faster with age, I think that is something that can be applied to all players, including Ollie who is older than Werner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 18 minutes ago, RicRic said: Thank you! think its the price tag and that hes a chelsea player Definitely not judging him on his time with Chelsea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Sign Idris just for the cool factor. Booking dot yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 32 minutes ago, AV82 said: When are we going to see some outgoings? We also sold Trezuguet, Kalinic & Targett earlier this summer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, maqroll said: Booking dot yeah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaHatesMe Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said: As regards not getting any faster with age, I think that is something that can be applied to all players, including Ollie who is older than Werner Of course, but the difference is that Ollie has more skills than just being fast. I'm not convinced Werner does. Nearly all his goals with Leipzig were on the counter when he'd beat a high line and run in behind it and get a one-on-one. When Werner isn't attacking on the counter he doesn't offer a whole hell of a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radness Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Whilst no Watkins/Ings fan I think we can wait another year for our striker. If we get the midfielder we need this season then realistically the only position we will need to upgrade next season is striker, and then we can throw a big chunk of change at someone who has everything rather than someone who is slightly better than what we hav. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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