Rightdm00 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 When both fullbacks former and present look equally bad you need to start looking at the setup. Digne is slightly better due to his wingback like skills but this isn't working. Fullbacks can't be expected to run the entire length of the pitch beat 2 defenders and put in a pinpoint cross. That's a wide attackers job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Said it before not the upgrade on Targett people believed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Just now, Zatman said: Said it before not the upgrade on Targett people believed It's a lot of money spent if he doesn't end up being it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 He’s not blowing us away with his performances so far but the whole defence has been a little shaky since the turn of the year, even Martinez. Digne has over 40 caps for France to date, so he should prove to be better than Targett over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reivax_Villa Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Not impressed tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Please please please don’t be another dud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Phew lucky I was criticised for compareöing Everton fan favourite Lucas Digne to Newcastle fan favourite Habib Beye I see nothing Targett couldnt do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 I think Digne has done well so far, very good with the ball and reads the game. But the problem with the setup remains, fullbacks placed that high with a back four puts huge pressure on remaining players, not sure it’s worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 6 hours ago, VillaParkAvenue said: I think Digne has done well so far, very good with the ball and reads the game. But the problem with the setup remains, fullbacks placed that high with a back four puts huge pressure on remaining players, not sure it’s worth it. You might want to check his stats for the Newcastle game. Lost the ball more than any other villa player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, hippo said: You might want to check his stats for the Newcastle game. Lost the ball more than any other villa player. I thought that was Luiz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said: I thought that was Luiz? No, not Luiz. I wonder where all those cases of lost possession for Digne comes from, they weren’t obvious by watching the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 minute ago, VillaParkAvenue said: No, not Luiz. I wonder where all those cases of lost possession for Digne comes from, they weren’t obvious by watching the game. Haven't checked the stats, but thought most of his crosses hit the first defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Poor yesterday but overall he's been good and is a marked improvement in the final third than Targett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 12 minutes ago, vreitti said: Haven't checked the stats, but thought most of his crosses hit the first defender. Yes they were bad yesterday (his crossing has been good previous games). Curious about how the lost possession stat is counted. Players often have very high numbers there and I wonder what technically counts as possession lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Ok here are his stats from yesterday - pretty damming. https://www.footballtransfertavern.com/premier-league/aston-villa/aston-villa-newcastle-player-ratings-luiz-digne-martinez/ "Often such a threat from full-back, the 28-year-old offered little in that regard this afternoon. Only one of his nine crosses picked out a team-mate, while he failed to complete a successful dribble or long pass. Indeed, he lost possession a whopping 26 times, by a distance the most of anyone involved at St James’ Park." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmirch Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Not much if at all of an upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister_a Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 I'm not sure that decisions about whether he is an upgrade can be made within *checks notes* 30 days of him signing for the club. Seems a bit soon to be writing him off (but it's the VT way i guess, 75 pages of he's crap / no he isn't to follow). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 21 minutes ago, Mister_a said: I'm not sure that decisions about whether he is an upgrade can be made within *checks notes* 30 days of him signing for the club. Seems a bit soon to be writing him off (but it's the VT way i guess, 75 pages of he's crap / no he isn't to follow). In fairness Everton fans were saying he really wasnt that great. If anything I thought it would be the opposite and that his attacking would be miles better than his defensive play but it has been the other way around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister_a Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, Zatman said: In fairness Everton fans were saying he really wasnt that great. If anything I thought it would be the opposite and that his attacking would be miles better than his defensive play but it has been the other way around With Everton that was always: 'I didn't fancy you anyways' after he rejected staying there. Bold statement, but maybe we should give new players some time to settle into the squad. Radical I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mister_a said: With Everton that was always: 'I didn't fancy you anyways' after he rejected staying there. Bold statement, but maybe we should give new players some time to settle into the squad. Radical I know Yes but he didnt reject staying there, he was forced out. If anything he would not have left Everton if Rafa was not the manager 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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