Sam-AVFC Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, DCJonah said: When stats are getting to Mcleish and Sherwood levels of bad you know it's heading downwards. Funnily enough I don't remember anyone wanting Mcleish or Sherwood to be given more time. They must have been for Mcleish as I think Celtic had a higher wage bill when he won the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Steven Gerrard ate my pet hamster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, DCJonah said: I believe it's now worse. Utterly irrelevant comparison. It means nothing. We win next game and it changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcifer Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 I think he is here until after the Man City game anyway. We will then be in the bottom 3 (let be honest cant see us picking up any points in our next 3 games) West Ham to get their season started next Sunday! Then Arsenal and Man City. We then have Leicester (A), Southampton(H) Leeds(A) and Forest(A) - 4 fixtures that we should be winning but with Gerrard at the wheel i can see 3 losses and a draw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 11 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Utterly irrelevant comparison. It means nothing. We win next game and it changes. You could say that about loads of comparisons. It's not irrelevant at this moment in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PieFacE Posted August 22, 2022 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted August 22, 2022 Every day he's still the manager is another wasted day. Just delaying the inevitable. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Steven Gerrard ate my pet hamster Raw or cooked? If cooked can you DM me the recipe? Edited August 22, 2022 by nick76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Has the smug we told you so ridiculing of those that ‘supported’ our manager not ended yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted August 22, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 22, 2022 59 minutes ago, Jas10 said: Just as a follow up, this was in the replies. First of all, I don’t know if that is correct. I guess it seems about right. This would lend credence to the argument his supporters might put forward that Gerrard has had the players performing to roughly what they’re capable of (midtable-ish). However, the trajectory we’re on I feel puts us much closer to the bottom half of that table and in a month’s time, I wouldn’t be shocked to see us third from bottom keeping Southampton and Everton company. Hopefully I’m wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Has the smug we told you so ridiculing of those that ‘supported’ our manager not ended yet? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTed Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 12 minutes ago, nick76 said: Raw or cooked? If cooked can you DM me the recipe? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: Just as a follow up, this was in the replies. First of all, I don’t know if that is correct. I guess it seems about right. This would lend credence to the argument his supporters might put forward that Gerrard has had the players performing to roughly what they’re capable of (midtable-ish). However, the trajectory we’re on I feel puts us much closer to the bottom half of that table and in a month’s time, I wouldn’t be shocked to see us third from bottom keeping Southampton and Everton company. Hopefully I’m wrong. Yep it’s the trajectory that’s the problem. A third of those points was in his first six games and it’s just gets worse over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teale's 'tache Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Gerrard was always a risky appointment, I think we knew that from the beginning. The lack of any tangible improvement on the pitch, in any area, despite the time and money afforded him thus far, is really poor. His record with us is now very poor, and the recent performances we are seeing on the pitch are just horrid. He doesn't have any experience of this type of situation in his managerial career, and he's shown nothing to suggest he has any idea how to turn things around. I'm sure the club will give him a few more games, because they've invested so much in him, but I've no doubt he'll be gone soon enough. I don't dislike the man, he's always spoken well and I'm sure he genuinely wanted to do great things with us, but he's not addressing our weaknesses or issues, in fact it feels like he's now causing more issues than he is solving. When he first arrived he immediately saw the problems we had in midfield, the gaps being too big and it being too easy to play through us, he tightened things up and we went on a nice little run getting ourselves out of trouble. We now have exactly the same issue in midfield, he arrived with what seemed like a pretty clear plan, but that plan has now chopped and changed with no real benefit to anybody. The only player that I think has improved is Cash, that's it. His job is to get the best out of the players we have and ideally improve them, he simply hasn't done that. The only real positive I can really take from his time here is that he has improved the quality of the squad, and I'm very excited to see what a genuinely competent manager with a clear idea and system could do with them. However, I'm afraid we still have a few games of misery heading our way before that becomes a possibility, and that itself depends upon if you trust the club to employ the right manager... FWIW I don't think Purslow will have any issues binning Gerrard, he's a cut throat business man, and a successful one at that, you don't get in to that position by being overly sentimental. He'll see the warning signs, and he'll know what he has to do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: Just as a follow up, this was in the replies. First of all, I don’t know if that is correct. I guess it seems about right. This would lend credence to the argument his supporters might put forward that Gerrard has had the players performing to roughly what they’re capable of (midtable-ish). However, the trajectory we’re on I feel puts us much closer to the bottom half of that table and in a month’s time, I wouldn’t be shocked to see us third from bottom keeping Southampton and Everton company. Hopefully I’m wrong. The bottom half part is why it’s not as simple as ‘sack him now’. It’s not a complete Mcleish/Sherwood style shambles at all. However a lot of those points were from the new manager bounce and pragmatic approach he applied to get points when first took over. Since then we seem to be regressing. It’s tough for the club right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 His winning percentage has gone down by 30 points since he was at Rangers. It's less than 40% at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, SuperTed said: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: His winning percentage has gone down by 30 points since he was at Rangers. It's less than 40% at the moment. His win rate at Ramgers wasnt really all that either. I am sure McLeish had a higher win percentage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rodders0223 Posted August 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 22, 2022 Winning percentages, points per game, league table since the start of his reign. He's shit. End of. His football is shit his selections are shit his tactics are shit his motivating is shit his man management is shit and his soundbites are shit. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, rodders0223 said: Winning percentages, points per game, league table since the start of his reign. He's shit. End of. His football is shit his selections are shit his tactics are shit his motivating is shit his man management is shit and his soundbites are shit. Not sure what you're getting at there, are you suggesting he's not suitable 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, Talldarkandransome said: Not sure what you're getting at there, are you suggesting he's not suitable I think he's suggesting Gerrard is shit, I could be wrong though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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